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does kdice need more punishment from mods?
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the full monte wrote
at 2:49 PM, Thursday December 4, 2008 EST
this is a serious discussion.
i check out kdice.com/advisorLog about once a week, and have been pleased to see how active the xsketch mod Lei is in punishing cheating over in xsketch land. fairly frequently you will see an entire page of advisorLog filled with him catching people who write answers, who share answers over instant messaging, or people who abuse the chatbox or username choice. and he bans the annoying username people several times in a row as soon as they create new alts. i applaud this effort. i havent been to xsketch recently, but im sure Lei's vigor has a positive influence on the community. i played a few days of gpokr this month, and was pleased to see that the community there also realizes the punishment of cheating. when i used to play a long time ago, it was commonplace to transfer winnings between alt accounts. apparently that has now been deemed a punishable offense (makes sense), and people only transfer winnings as discretely as possible because they know they will lose all of the winnings if a mod catches them doing it. what im concerned with in kdice is that the mods dont (or arent allowed to) punish pga. i guess the reasoning is that it's too much of a grey area defining when play is pga and when it isnt. in my experience with kdice recently, the only people being punished are the chatbox abusers / forum abusers / username abusers. if you look at advisorLog, xsketch has far more moderation than kdice, as does gpokr. but arent there more kdice players than gpokr and xsketch combined? perhaps there are less kdice cheaters, maybe thats it. anyways, it would be nice to see some new mods (stfu johnson, i dont want to be a mod), who commit more energy to punishing cheating in kdice, not just racism/language/forum idiocy. i really appreciate the current mods, i.e. skrum, who gives us pro bono all these intriguing statistical analyses. grunvagr has all but disappeared. so now it seems Ryan is the only one holding down the fort in kdice. and its tough for him to do that when he's got 3 communities continuously bitching at him every time he tries to implement a positive change in his code. (i couldnt believe how many gpokr players were bitching about some phantom ante bug, instead of constructively helping explain why it was happening and how to fix it.) anyways, i feel we need more active mods here in kdice, and i feel they should be given the power to punish clear and admitted pgas. i believe there are some unbiased and fair people in the community who would do a good job. thoughts? trolls? |
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JDizzle787 wrote
at 7:41 PM, Sunday December 7, 2008 EST first of all, thanks for totally skipping my thoughts.
Second, leekstep, in this case, Knowledge=corruption. While they would make great mods for being able to tell what's up, I would have lost trust i Ryan and his ability to run this site if he chooses them as his security. Rolling Stones, Altamont concert anyone? It would be awesome if we used their knowledge to prevent it from happening, but but history proves that putting these people in power fucks things up royally. |
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dasfury wrote
at 10:38 AM, Monday December 8, 2008 EST Leek, can you stop trying to support fiero for mod. He had a shot and failed miserably.
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nuflis wrote
at 11:26 AM, Monday December 8, 2008 EST Leek, can you stop trying whatever are you trying?
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Thraxle wrote
at 12:46 PM, Monday December 8, 2008 EST I'll be a mod...........any votes?
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 12:54 PM, Monday December 8, 2008 EST Fiero just massed banned a bunch of people for 1 chat log and a few games that most of the people that were banned where not PGAing nufflis in.
Ryan doesn't know as much about how to play this game as some of the people he tries to moderate. Most of the "elite" when given the chance can manipulate and own a table of unknowns. The only people that are good at finding the cheaters are the cheaters themselves, and even then they are wrong more often then not, example fiero. People need to stop being lame and just play for first and only care about relationships with others players in the chatbox not on the game map. |
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JDizzle787 wrote
at 5:08 PM, Monday December 8, 2008 EST this place is fucked. /kdice
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rugbyjoe wrote
at 12:27 AM, Tuesday December 9, 2008 EST PGA is just too grey to weed out most of the time. Just about everyone has reviews with at least a couple accusations of PGA. Many accusations, few are real. I think they're considered unacceptable and people are able to discover them pretty quickly these days. It's not like the old days when there was a cabal of several players all working together.
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mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 8:04 AM, Tuesday December 9, 2008 EST well, i think the topplayer-culture have to a great extent moderated itself. there are few to none real PGAs there nowadays.
i think this is partally because most top players dont accsept PGAs of other players, and they would do much to kill of the truce/PGA in the 2nd game in a row they see the two same people team up together. i think most relationships have moved themselves into the greyzone, some futher that others. and when they are in the greyzone they are much harder to discover and actually deem as inappropriate. i think the only "problem" with the top tables is the top players actions against unknown players, since they feel they are harder to trust. BTW <----- only good reviews :) |
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olkainry38 wrote
at 3:49 AM, Wednesday December 10, 2008 EST Most of top players make silent truces with their kdice friends...
So ban them too...Stop to be hypocritical.. Ban them or just close your eyes on the other ones who make like you and that you call PGA... Wow always the same threads in this game..This is a PGA game..UNDERSTOOD ? How do you think ppl grow at the top ? - Abilities OMFG it's so funny...An hour of this game and you have enough abilities to win a month... - Make friends by playing a lot, help their friends in a game and their friends help them (let them connect easily, go after someone they do not know rather than hit their friends)..and THAT IS THE SAME AS A PGA End of the exchange for me Flame me...Olk in da place |
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washing_machine wrote
at 3:53 AM, Wednesday December 10, 2008 EST ^^ noob who doesn't understand kdice
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