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How to act when you first sit at high tables
montecarlo wrote
at 7:34 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST
this is in response to olk's reply in ryan's thread about pga = cheating. i didnt want to sidetrack that thread, but i did want to reply to olk's comment:

"The most part of the top players are friendly with a lots of other top players and find them randomly at tables. They have tendency to attack the new coming they don't know. For me it is as a PGA..." --olk

i totally agree with you on this point. this is the way it has always been. back in january when i first made an appearance on the top tables (2000s i think), everyone knew that the elitist bastards who were 2000 regulars would pwn your ass immediately and shoot you back down to the 1800 tables. in light of this, i decided to be nice when i first made it up there. i took my 5th like a man, and went back to 1800. i had a decent shot at 3rd, maybe 2nd, but then they all realized that i was a 2000 noob and they wanted to reward each other. i understood. and didnt bitch about it. and told them it was cool. and their reaction: they raised their collective eyebrow, and said they would remember my charm. so the next time i played 2000, the same thing happened all over again. the third time, the castle burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. BUT THE FOURTH TIME, i had enough positive memory on the 2000 tables that they let me keep the 2nd place that i earned. and they let me stay in their circle.

psychologically, this all makes sense. if you play with the same group of people for hundreds of games, and you respect the way they play and their personality, then you will tend to help them when given the choice of help them or help someone you dont know. so i decided that i needed these 2000 people to get to know me, you know, cus i think im a pretty nice guy. and after 4 games of getting pwnd by them, they decided i was a nice guy, and i had a good personality.

now, if you want to make it EXTREMELY hard to stay at the high tables, the ABSOLUTE worst thing you can do is bitch at them when they gang up and hand you a 5th instead of your deserved 2nd/3rd. the other TERRIBLE thing you can do is, while bitching, call them all PGAs. especially in this day and era, where pgas are officially cheaters. based on my experience, on all tables of all levels, whenever i call someone a cheater, they will ALWAYS attack me for several games in a row after that.

so, a quick overview. to stay on the high tables:
1) be humble, take your undeserved 5th place like a man, and make a joke about it (people love humor in kdice).
2) never accuse the upper tables of pga as soon as you are sent to a lower table.

honestly, i think this is good advice. even from an american!

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¤Unique¤ wrote
at 11:06 PM, Monday December 10, 2007 EST
There really was not any substance in your last post Montecarlo. Bottom line is that one just needs play this frigging game. There is absolutely no need for some special "rules of conduct" or "code of conduct" for high tables or any of that ass kissing BS. Yes BS and I do mean BS. Just play the frigging game and play it fair without resorting to cheating.

For sure you can lose lot of point in higher tables but then again you can also gain a lot. Provided that your opponents did not cheat their way to those tables, they propably have some skill and you need to be much more careful and precise with your moves and strategy compared to lower tables. This is called RESPECT and RESPECTING your opponents skills. What you are talking about in your post is simply put called ass kissing and behaving like someone's bitch. Respect opponents skills, dont curse or spam the chat with all kinds of negative text and just play the game like it is supposed to be played is all one needs to do.

There is a huge difference with respect, being respectful, being friendly and kissing ass. Now this is what you wrote: "blaah blaah blaahh...if you play with the same group of people for hundreds of games, and you respect the way they play and their personality... blaah blaah blaah..." First of all if the way they play the game is BS and obviously cheating then why should you give them any respect whatsoever? If their personalities are nasty then why should you respect them in anyway whatsoever? Respect is EARNED not given and for sure not given just because a person happens to have lot of points. What matters is how those points have been gotten. Have they been earned trough hard work and winning fairly or by fixing games/entire tables. I am sure you get the point.


Other things you wrote:

..."you will tend to help them when GIVEN the choice of help them..."

Oh snap. So now we are just supposed to sit and wait till we are ordered to make a move by the guy who has most points. Seriously either you are insane or completely lack "spine".


...they gang up and hand you a 5th... AND...that they let me keep the 2nd place"


Now do you really not see anything wrong with above statements? So who are these people to LET you keep x place? Who are these people to hand you this or that? Who the f*** do these people think they are to hand out some PRE MADE DIVINE judgement on how you should place in a game? WTF?! For sure these people are not GOD's or anything. They are just regular players like you and me. They seriously are not in any position to hand out some DIVINE judgement or any judgement whatsoever. Only way this would be possible would be by FIXING the game in advance and not actually figting against each other and let natural cource and player skills decide the end result. In other words only way such a thing would be possible woule be via cheating.

I can also get eight friends or more to play this game and hand out 1st places to my friends mains playing alts myself. They would then return the favour. Now I would skyrocket to high tables and it would be easy. However it would also be complete BS cheating.


This all being said the game itself is the same Kdice regardless of the table. General rules are the same and game play remains the same. While your opponents are tougher they are all still human and not gods or super human beings and definately not something to bow down to. The moment you start to bown down and act like scared little monkey you lose. Object is to win not to be someones point monkey. Besides if one has managed to make his way to high tables he most likely is pretty skilled himself too and not something to just take lightly.
XCRobin wrote
at 12:42 AM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
Anyone ever seen PGA on the 0 tables? It's a bitch.
Tueur_en_serie wrote
at 2:10 AM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
Ssergio, learn to write my name, and perhaps i will read your.

No need to be friendly those players, eye for eye, tooth for tooth.....
Tueur_en_serie wrote
at 2:11 AM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
Yeah it's my fun account (olkainry ;))!!

Have fun, cya all !!
Tueur_en_serie wrote
at 2:16 AM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
Last thing !!


"The gap in the market is a leaderboard on dicewars (© btw, even better buy the old Risk CDROM and play it all night long against your computer I promise you'll be in the top 10 at the end of the month. "

You made me laugh Ssergio, nice !! do you really know what Strategy means ? Make a truce before the game as we can do with a friend...NO
During the game...Yes

SodaPop wrote
at 3:17 AM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
People who like to kiss ass in order to earn cyber kdice diamonds:

montecarlo
sarahxxx
kehoe
cadpilot
montecarlo wrote
at 6:54 AM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
Unique, all I'm saying is, respect is earned over a *long period of time (months) moreso than a short period of time (one game). It is ludicrous to expect me to give a noob as much respect for him playing well for one game as i give to integral for playing well for ten months. This is a basic facet of friendship.

And Grunvagr, you are right, Kehoe is a whiny bitch when it comes to begging for points. This is to be expected, as he is a DOG.
Maryland wrote
at 9:46 AM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
Its funny to hear a dude liek Unique preaching about respect.

Did you respect my decision to move north as you suggested would be better for both of us. NO
Did you earn my respect by backstabbing me after said northern move?
Will i consider to respect your wished when you suggest that I move away from you when I could ruin you?
NO
Kehoe wrote
at 9:55 AM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
Soda, when have you witnessed me kissing any ass in a game?
0 wrote
at 2:54 PM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
Oh, and make sure that at least 10 people have similar accounts as you. Plus, make up a fake name for yourself. (Jeff).

Lastly, make sure that you give away your account once you get bored of it.
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