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How to act when you first sit at high tables
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montecarlo wrote
at 7:34 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST
this is in response to olk's reply in ryan's thread about pga = cheating. i didnt want to sidetrack that thread, but i did want to reply to olk's comment:
"The most part of the top players are friendly with a lots of other top players and find them randomly at tables. They have tendency to attack the new coming they don't know. For me it is as a PGA..." --olk i totally agree with you on this point. this is the way it has always been. back in january when i first made an appearance on the top tables (2000s i think), everyone knew that the elitist bastards who were 2000 regulars would pwn your ass immediately and shoot you back down to the 1800 tables. in light of this, i decided to be nice when i first made it up there. i took my 5th like a man, and went back to 1800. i had a decent shot at 3rd, maybe 2nd, but then they all realized that i was a 2000 noob and they wanted to reward each other. i understood. and didnt bitch about it. and told them it was cool. and their reaction: they raised their collective eyebrow, and said they would remember my charm. so the next time i played 2000, the same thing happened all over again. the third time, the castle burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. BUT THE FOURTH TIME, i had enough positive memory on the 2000 tables that they let me keep the 2nd place that i earned. and they let me stay in their circle. psychologically, this all makes sense. if you play with the same group of people for hundreds of games, and you respect the way they play and their personality, then you will tend to help them when given the choice of help them or help someone you dont know. so i decided that i needed these 2000 people to get to know me, you know, cus i think im a pretty nice guy. and after 4 games of getting pwnd by them, they decided i was a nice guy, and i had a good personality. now, if you want to make it EXTREMELY hard to stay at the high tables, the ABSOLUTE worst thing you can do is bitch at them when they gang up and hand you a 5th instead of your deserved 2nd/3rd. the other TERRIBLE thing you can do is, while bitching, call them all PGAs. especially in this day and era, where pgas are officially cheaters. based on my experience, on all tables of all levels, whenever i call someone a cheater, they will ALWAYS attack me for several games in a row after that. so, a quick overview. to stay on the high tables: 1) be humble, take your undeserved 5th place like a man, and make a joke about it (people love humor in kdice). 2) never accuse the upper tables of pga as soon as you are sent to a lower table. honestly, i think this is good advice. even from an american! |
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JKD wrote
at 10:05 AM, Monday December 10, 2007 EST So in a nutshell: to be the best you have to be really good at getting your ass kicked by unfair players so that they'll pity you the way they do with each other?
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olkainry38 wrote
at 11:04 AM, Monday December 10, 2007 EST Yeah seems to be....
Lick asses to be accepted in the top table Nice behaviour, i'll do without and stay at my rank |
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Zosod wrote
at 11:16 AM, Monday December 10, 2007 EST better idea, before u go to 1000 tables, ask me to pga u, most likely i will and we both win.
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olkainry38 wrote
at 12:37 PM, Monday December 10, 2007 EST It is sad but I see only a manner to counter helps between top friends, make pga with new players..My own experience showed me that it is the only solution today to climb to the top...
Do you want this for this game? I hope not It is just becoming a battle of clans.... |
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montecarlo wrote
at 1:32 PM, Monday December 10, 2007 EST currently this game is as far away from clans as it has ever been. there is a joke kamikaze clan, that was created from mike's ability to inspire. but they dont really play like a clan at all.
ever since the elo system got dumped, and a monthly reset to true zero happened, there is too little time to exchange favors in order to form a clan. everyone is too busy competing with each other to get 1st overall. last time i saw an actual clan was... july? |
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¤Unique¤ wrote
at 1:56 PM, Monday December 10, 2007 EST no offence meant but HUGE lol at your post montecarlo.
"The most part of the top players are friendly with a lots of other top players." There is nothing wrong with being friendly towards people as long as it does not carry over to the game itself in a negative way. In essence what you are suggesting is to kneel down in front of some people and kiss their asses. That's BS. no self respecting man does that. "now, if you want to make it EXTREMELY hard to stay at the high tables" etc. whatever. What I want is to actually PLAY this game and EARN my rank FOR REAL. Especially in this day and era, where pgas are officially cheaters those things that you just descriped are basically PGA's. so, a quick overview. to stay on the high tables: 1) Play the game, get better and outsmart others. 2) Be honest and tell it how it is if you see any BS. 3) If lamers can not take getting exposed then they can go and cry to their daddy or something. |
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Maryland wrote
at 3:15 PM, Monday December 10, 2007 EST DONT DO THIS:
Ask someone to move away from you since its in both of your best interests, then attack them and make them 4th, when they really should have gotten 2nd since they moved away from you. Don't think that not using the word 'truce' can exempt you from being called a backstabber. |
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rnd++ wrote
at 3:22 PM, Monday December 10, 2007 EST I agree with strange character Unique strange character; clearly the Thought Police are here, and your PGAs will not be tolerated -- please stop attempting to make a strategy game out of what is clearly nothing more than a dice game.
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Ssergio wrote
at 5:54 PM, Monday December 10, 2007 EST Don't listen to any of the crap stated above, just keep playing and communicating like you always did an maybe this month you'll get 148th in stead of 259th place.
The gap in the market is a leaderboard on dicewars (© btw, even better buy the old Risk CDROM and play it all night long against your computer I promise you'll be in the top 10 at the end of the month. " It is sad but I see only a manner to counter helps between top friends, make pga with new players..My own experience showed me that it is the only solution today to climb to the top... " @Oilkainry38: Seems like a great trick, but do you have a secret ladder for your gang? Because I don't see them on our ladder... The top is actually reserved for members of skulls and bones. So all you poor ppl get lost (or get the yayo)! |
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montecarlo wrote
at 8:33 PM, Monday December 10, 2007 EST Unique... what you propose sounds like what Venezuela is doing. Being extremely vocal and calling out the PGAs of the world. I doubt it will amount to anything. If you really want to aim for 1st in a month, you MUST have respect at the top tables. It is hard to earn respect if you are not friendly. Possible? Perhaps... but I have never NEVER seen a monthly 1st given to someone who is not friendly.
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