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[O] Policy on Avatars
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Pursey wrote
at 4:29 AM, Tuesday May 10, 2016 EDT
All previous rules set out by Jurgen and Integral continue to stand.
I'm adding to this that the run of confirmed genocidal dictator or nazi based avatars are expressly prohibited. You can leave a message here or on my wall if there's any issues. Here's a list of things that aren't okay but it's not an exhaustive list: * Adolf Hitler * Joseph Stalin * The Nazi Flag, the runes or similar * Racist Avatars * Other terrorists or dictators on a case by case basis In the first instance you will get an avatar reset, and a -changeavatar for a month if its one of the expressly prohibited bunch. If its one we deem inappropriate but not on the list, you'll be warned first and your avatar reset. In the second instance, you'll receive a more extensive ban. Thanks guys. |
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Pursey wrote
at 5:56 AM, Monday May 16, 2016 EDT Ok.
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Immigrant wrote
at 6:20 AM, Monday May 16, 2016 EDT I hope a placard of Je Suis Charlie isn't too offensive for you Pursey.
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integral wrote
at 8:50 PM, Monday May 16, 2016 EDT For the record, I never banned your avatar, and wasn't planning on it.
But my initial statement stands... seems obvious that you can't just come here and click lands and then click adjoining lands, and then maybe say stuff in chat related to the game you're in... For some reason you feel the need to make kdice your own personal soapbox. |
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Immigrant wrote
at 9:41 PM, Monday May 16, 2016 EDT Integral, this video should sum up my problem with yourself. I wanted to test a recording programme out so decided to talk about recent bs on kdice.
https://youtu.be/b917Zzv8RB8?t=328 |
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Immigrant wrote
at 7:24 AM, Tuesday May 17, 2016 EDT Also I don't get it. What's the point of having a discussion section and a chat box if you only want people to "maybe" use it on occasion? As I said in the vid this is the internet, people hold opinions.
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Louis Cypher wrote
at 8:36 AM, Tuesday May 17, 2016 EDT 1) The discussion on kdice should be related to kdice. I see no use in discussing US-politics, sports (including German soccer) or anything like that here. There is other sites focussing on this.
2) Having a major event shaking most of mankind (e.g. the tsunami in japan, the shooting in Paris, the starting rise of the IS ...) any society made of humans will react to it. That should be tolerated for a while. 3) Avatars should be part of this concept. Coming to your specific avatar, if you had used it ever since the shooting, there'd be nothing wrong with keeping it from my understanding. Selecting it now with a substantial delay is just trolling. Thus it should not be accepted. If you had watched the ESC (european shit contest or something along that line) you would have seen that Stalin and what he and his folks did to other groups in Russia and the occupied states is by no means forgotten by all. Thus not using Stalin as an avatar seems good to me. For the same reason Hitler shouldn't be tolerated - nor General Custer or Pol Pot (the list is by no means complete but I stop digging for more crazed mass murderers here). I know you are just trolling - still I give a little reason and thinking a shot in your direction. |
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Louis Cypher wrote
at 8:42 AM, Tuesday May 17, 2016 EDT Regarding that last comment, the internet protocoll as developed by ARPA and DARPA does rate censorship (and you are free to feel the rules a society is giving themselves as censorship from your perspective) as damage and routes around it. Maybe that's an idea for you - there is numerous other forums, chatboxes and so on to discuss the way you want it.
Suggested readings: RFC 791, you might also wish to look up OSI stack layer 3 when talking about "the internet". |
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earthship65 wrote
at 10:28 AM, Tuesday May 17, 2016 EDT If you are an easily offended SJW who finds the slightest thing a micro-aggression and gets upset about it, you should not be on the internet.
I swear people just get up in the morning looking for things to get offended by. |
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Immigrant wrote
at 2:42 PM, Tuesday May 17, 2016 EDT > "The discussion on kdice should be related to kdice."
Serious question. Why are you so keen on censorship? This game would get boring fast if you couldn't talk about anything. > "I see no use in discussing US-politics, sports (including German soccer) or anything like that here" How come you aren't opposing this thread then? https://kdice.com/discussion/topics/44773821?page=last Plenty of people talking about US politics unchallenged there. Forgive me for being abit confused, when it seems like it's only a problem when I'm discussing politics and other issues. > "Selecting it now with a substantial delay is just trolling" Nah, it was just a protest picture about not restricting avatars that will unlikely offend anyone. If anyone that draws the cartoons is a troll, then I assume you think the murdered Charlie Hebdo cartoonists were also just "trolls"? Pretty disrespectful words. Anyway, you're the geeza who admitted to and glorified trolling the other day, weeks after our little conversation ended. Your comment: "Do I get a contributor badge for my excellent trolling of immigrant" Guess I'll try not to take your bait in future yeh you 'excellent' troll. |
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getting_revolt wrote
at 4:03 PM, Tuesday May 17, 2016 EDT I think for the sake of a more intelligent (and thus more enjoyable) I think one needs to distinguish between two things:
(1) Do we need limits on free expression in general? If the answer is yes (and surely it is), where should the limit be drawn? That might be a very interesting question, but absolutely irrelevant here. We'd need to address the seemingly similar, but in reality, completely unrelated question(s) of: (2) Do we need limits on free expression on KDice? If the answer is yes, where should the line be drawn? In order to answer these questions, first we need to identify what KDice IS. It is a for-profit (proprietary) website developed and run by Ryan Dewsbury and we should assume that the rules are designed in a way to serve HIS interests. The amended version of the "general rules" tells you that you should not use (1) pornography OR (3) hate ... avatars. You could argue that porn avatars probably offend even less people than Hitler avatars, and you should be allowed to exercise your First Amendmend rights by using them. However, that argument would be false, cause this website is not a free public space provided by the government, but the private property of Ryan, who lets you use it on condition that you subject yourself to the rules set by him and his agents. Porn avatars were banned not only on the grounds that they might offend people or harm the mental development of minors, but also because an advertiser complained about the boobs on the main page. They suggested that their products being associated with boobs would be bad for their business, and since they cough up some $$$, letting them go would be bad for Ryan's business as well. I guess, the companies buying banner spaces from Ryan, would be even less happy if someone associated their products with genocidal dictators like Hitler or Stalin, so naturally, he would have incentives to ban these avatars. And as for Muhammad, I doubt that the executives of Qatar Airways or Emirates would want their products to be displayed at the same time as caricatures of their prophet. |