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Holy Sh*t...Osama is dead...for reals
Travis O Johnson wrote
at 10:03 PM, Sunday May 1, 2011 EDT

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montecarlo wrote
at 10:33 AM, Tuesday May 3, 2011 EDT
youd think wed learn from england that its damn hard to win a war across an ocean ;)
Thraxle wrote
at 10:39 AM, Tuesday May 3, 2011 EDT
Well, the difference is that we don't want to colonize anyone. We just want to find a couple enemies and kill them, or stop an internal skirmish that could escalate into something bigger....or steal oil!

England wanted to rule the world...we just want to be the landlord making sure all the other tenants stay in line, don't fuck with their neighbors, and don't blow up the apartment building.
Karrar wrote
at 11:11 AM, Tuesday May 3, 2011 EDT
do u really believe that thraxle?
i mean yeah usa does not want to colonialize these countries, they just want to tap into their resources
oh snap THAT IS COLONIALIZM
Thraxle wrote
at 12:04 PM, Tuesday May 3, 2011 EDT
If it wasn't for our consumption of their ONLY decent natural resource, most of them would still be riding camels and living in tents. I can't wait for electric cars to become affordable for the general public so we can choke the only lifeline Middle East terror organizations have for capital.

Colonialization is defined as "The policy or practice of acquiring full or partial political control over another country, occupying it with settlers, and exploiting it economically."

Believe me when I tell you this, not one single American wants to voluntarily move from New York or L.A. to Baghdad. So we do not want to "colonize" the Middle East. As for the "exploiting it economically" part, the only people getting exploited are the middle and lower classes of BOTH regions, America and the Middle East. Average Americans struggle to afford high prices at the gas pumps, and greedy tycoons in the Middle East hoard all the money for themselves.
Marxism wrote
at 1:04 PM, Tuesday May 3, 2011 EDT
Thraxle there have been many, many occasions where the United States has toppled a democratically-elected government to secure access to resources for American corporations. For example, the democratically-elected government of Guatemala that was toppled in 1954 because United Fruit Company (now Chiquita) lobbied the CIA, saying that the Guatemalan government was aligning with the Soviets (a white lie -- the government was socialist but nonaligned). In reality, the Guatemalan government simply wanted to nationalize 30% of UFC's lands because UFC owned ~80% of the land for bananas -- a very lucrative enterprise. Long story short, the US government toppled the Guatemalan government because a fruit company didn't want to lose SOME of the land it grew bananas on.

This was also the case in Iran in 1954 where the Iranian government of Mohammad Mossadeq wanted to nationalize the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company and the Brits didn't take too kindly to that so, with promise of oil profits in tow, the British lobbied the American government to assist them in toppling the Iranian government and replacing Mossadeq with the Shah. This is also one of the main reasons why Iran is so anti-American today. Many Iranians still remember Mossadeq fondly.

Anyway, these are just two post-WWII examples of US neo-colonialism and there are many more. The United States is, and has been, a harmful force abroad and the evidence is easily found across a wide range of resources.
dasfury wrote
at 1:59 PM, Tuesday May 3, 2011 EDT
Many Iranians still remember Mossadeq fondly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Iran#Age_structure


TROOOOLLLLLL
Karrar wrote
at 2:03 PM, Tuesday May 3, 2011 EDT
So you are not refutating the tapping into their resources part?
thank you for that

You can hang onto definitions as long as you want, but enforcing a new governing system, with the key-positions filled by indoctrinated people is imho bad enough (yeah it is not colonialization as per definition, but i think u get my point)

Right, So you can tap into another countries resources (if u'll stick to Lithium-Batteries... well there is Silver Lake, but befre that, i think the CIA would find another country (OH SNAP with afghanistans lithium reserves... think the rest yourself
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 3:03 PM, Tuesday May 3, 2011 EDT
Thraxle wrote
at 3:09 PM, Tuesday May 3, 2011 EDT
Yes MRK, he was unarmed. I would have put a bullet in his head too, even if his family was surrounding him and begging me to let him live.

I would have also taken a photo of the gunshot wound/dead body and posted it on my Facebook page.

Any other questions?
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 3:15 PM, Tuesday May 3, 2011 EDT
thraxle, and you are not a policeofficer.


AND its against he geneva convention.




I am not saying I would not have done the same (and therefor avoiding the risk that he would walk from the charges), but me having that opinion should therefore disqualify me from being sendt on this mission.
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