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greekboi wrote
at 4:23 PM, Wednesday March 23, 2011 EDT
Do you really think that Republicans are that different from Democrats? Obviously on the surface you have your major differences in ideology, but the fact that you support Obama so loyally and think that Republicans are so very evil makes me think you are quite ignorant. Did you not notice the whole launching 122 missiles into Libya thing? What's up with that imperialist bullshit? Oh and how bout the whole economic "stimulus" plan? Can you really argue that it was any different than Bush's bailout? Throughout his campaign, Barack emphasized how he would put the money into the hands of the people, not the other way around. What about all his talks about moving away from the heated bipartisanship and bringing about cooperation to advance our national agenda? Bottom line is that Obama is full of shit. Everything he says is a load, and if you don't see past that, you are a moron. You guys need to get over your political parties, they mean nothing. Start voting on the issues.
Anyways, I know this hasn't been the most articulate post in the world, but I'll leave with you a quote from 2007: ?The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch.? I'll let you guess who said it. |
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Boner Oiler wrote
at 1:14 AM, Tuesday March 29, 2011 EDT There are a variety of logical/philosohical contradictions in the notion of the Christian god but this particular one appeals to parents which is why I feel it's appropriate.
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Boner Oiler wrote
at 1:15 AM, Tuesday March 29, 2011 EDT By the way for the duration of our discussion I will ignore the many and blatant contradictions of the scripture and simply address the pillars of christian dogma.
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reminder wrote
at 1:39 AM, Tuesday March 29, 2011 EDT To me, the very God concept makes some sense if God is actually a scientist who made Earth for the heck of it and simply enjoys watching us ants squirm. That, or he is a very bad and sadistic person, just like a child shaking an ant hive to enjoy the squirming.
The Bible is bs tho, there are so many contradictions in it that it's no wonder that some Christians say "Man interpreted God's words poorly, and man wrote the Bible". Yeah right, or maybe it was bs in the first place. |
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Boner Oiler wrote
at 1:42 AM, Tuesday March 29, 2011 EDT That I suppose is the deist notion reminder, although I don't personally give it any credence (no evidence, occam's razor, etc) it is certainly a more justified position than the contradiction that is the abrahamic god.
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skrumgaer wrote
at 7:57 AM, Tuesday March 29, 2011 EDT BO,
Does scripture say that the punishment of hell is infinite? It is everlasting, but everlasting and infinite are not the same thing. A consol is a bond that never matures, it pays coupons for ever. But a consol does not have an infinite value. |
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Thraxle wrote
at 8:33 AM, Tuesday March 29, 2011 EDT Arguing about religion is INFINITELY more pointless than arguing about politics. Those that believe can rarely be tempted to think otherwise because their rationale for believing lacks the neccessity of proof. Without the need for proof there is no argument since logic has already been thrown out the door.
It was kinda like my wife and I needing to be counseled by a Catholic priest about marraige prior to him marrying us despite the fact that he HAS NOT, NOR CANNOT MARRY ANYONE. Religion has always been full of holes and any religion that has survived the ages has needed to change with the times or be reinterpreted. Eventually when you pose a really tough question to a believer that they can't rationally answer they simply say something like "I have faith", or "I believe and that's just the way it fucking is". Arguing semantics on what is or is not true/believable/provable is truly pointless. And yes, I'm an atheist Republican. Suck it... |
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Boner Oiler wrote
at 9:10 AM, Tuesday March 29, 2011 EDT Yaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!! fun fun fun
Man I can't get that song out of my head. I am really tempted to demolish skrums poor attempt at trolling but instead I'm going to leave you all this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0&sns=em |
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skrumgaer wrote
at 9:11 AM, Tuesday March 29, 2011 EDT Belief is not based on proof. Belief is based on the absence of disproof. Theory is built up from hypotheses which have survived attempts at disproof. Any theory is always on probation, as new observations may come up that contradict predictions based on the received theory.
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Boner Oiler wrote
at 9:19 AM, Tuesday March 29, 2011 EDT Oh and thrax I hope you checked no religion on the census. We need to let politicians know what the demographics really are and that this nation isnt as uniformly religious as they think. It sickens me how many elected officials, who are clearly not religious, have to fake that piety just to be considered for a party nomination. Generally I don't appreciate any pandering of any sort but this kind definetly goes on on both sides and needs to be eradicated.
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Boner Oiler wrote
at 9:21 AM, Tuesday March 29, 2011 EDT Your mistake, skrum, is that a hypothesis only attempts to explain a testable phenomena. Since god is not testable, as per your religion, it stands to reason you need 'extraordinary evidence for an extraordinary claim.'
Check mate. |