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So is this is how it really works?
woodcubed wrote
at 5:17 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST
I just read the post by Fiero600. Suffice it to say I find it most revealing. Not the part about people abusing moderator status... not the pga crap at higher level tables... not any of that. I knew all of that. Now, for me, I am a casual player, I have never placed, I have my share of people who say they hate me but probably don't remember me. Really I am just mediocre at this game I figured. Yes, I have had a kdice account, the same and only account since I first signed up for this game in its first year, and I have maybe once gotten to the 5,000 tables Honestly i only try to get points so I can escape the zero tables and for really no other reason. So what is this post about? I will tell you.

Fiero600 says in his goodbye post that the luck for an individual player is affected by whether you have an account. If this is true, I need to think long and hard about whether I should even bother playing. This whole post is a response to this idea, and if it is not true that luck is a manipulated figure, please disabuse me of the notion. I don't spend any time usually in this forum so I would not know if this had come up before.
You see I had thought luck was simply an accounting of how you did, not a variable in the equation itself. Do you know how much stress it causes me, and to other players I am sure, to lose and lose and lose even when I darn well better know the strategy by now? How I will lose, on my first turn, every single attack, even 5v2, and be killed off instantly before the game has even begun? And this is not to say that can''t happen, but seriously. I always figured there was some random number generator somewhere combined with my own mistakes but if there is a thumb on the scale then is there is no point to any of my effort is there? And do I even want to pay to get an advantage over other players that would amount to cheating? In most games with paid perks, you get some magic armor, or a points boost, or another helping hand. But if it is true that paid subscribers get BETTER LUCK or heck even just a privileged few, than what you are telling me is more equivalent to paying not for a stat boost but instead to paying someone to give your opponents a handicap. I play this game because i figured it was a game of strategy mixed with luck and a way to procrastinate occasionally. But apparently it is a game of fixed statistics and politics.

I don't care what goes on at the top of the leader boards. I don't care how rampant the cheating is up in the clouds, and I don't give a crap about point boosts for people who pay for them (because they paid so they should get what is advertised). The only thing i care about, or rather, the only thing i get worked up about, is a basic fairness that comes from true random probability. And if there isn't that one thing, that one most essential component to a game about and centered on the rolling of DICE, then there is no point to any of this, you have causing me small bursts of massive stress for the last 5 YEARS, and I think that anyone who would implement such a system of punishment is a lousy sadist, and ought to be ashamed as a maker of games. If this is true. And please, tell me I am wrong, if i am, because part of me right now sitting here, writing this wants this not to be true, does not wish to believe that i have spent 5 YEARS as the pawn of a sadistic PLOT to provide entertainment for, as fiero600 again so kindly reveals, a "cabal" of special people.

This is not about me though, this is about ALL of the people who come to this site and play a game or two for free in their downtime, or have been doing so with some frequency and wonder occasionally how they could lose so badly, or so quickly, or why the same people always seem to breeze through games unscathed. The very people Fiero mentions, whom I have played with many times having been here as long as I have.

So I guess we are nearing the end of my rant. I don't tend to write long whiny rants, but I just want to know, Ryan, or moderators, or whomever is in charge: Are you punishing me? Are you causing me suffering? Are you cheating us at a fundamental level? This has always been a timewaster for me (in an ok way) but are you wasting my time? I just want to be honestly unlucky- or nothing at all.

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Prince Of Persia wrote
at 12:52 AM, Monday February 28, 2011 EST
mr. k. all your coin flip nonsense aside, nothing can replace the fact that when people with cursed accounts roll, the average of their rolls is lower than the average of everyone else's rolls. Ignore the win/loss thing. If i rolled 100,0000 dice on fiero600 non-membership. and then rolled 100,000 dice on fiero600 with membership. The average roll will be considerably higher with membership. I don't know how to figure out the client/server shit. I don't know computer science. I know enough to know that most anything is possible. What I do know is common sense.... and when everyone that's cursed has the same story, and its an obvious very blatant pattern over and over and over again... use common sense. I challenge Mr. K or boner oiler to create an account right now. And play 20'ish games. You will not be able to have a luck % between 40 and 44. It's a bs % that ryan created for people who were successful that he doesn't like and don't have memberships.
Prince Of Persia wrote
at 12:53 AM, Monday February 28, 2011 EST
chloe found the post from way back where me and skrum went over all my data. Go find it.. or she will in the morning. You can argue all this computer science bullshit you want, and i have mathematicians saying it's IMPOSSIBLE to be that unlucky by chance alone.
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 12:55 AM, Monday February 28, 2011 EST
and you think I am not a mathmatican?
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 1:02 AM, Monday February 28, 2011 EST
and if you read it, i said that with 3k rolls I I might concider 3,4 average sufficent. or If I wanted you to be among the unluckiest, I think the number to beat would be 3,3.
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 1:03 AM, Monday February 28, 2011 EST
and the point with the coinflip is that a player with a certain stratigy would be able to get luck at less than 45% consistently with a certain kind of stratigy. this is ofcourse because the luck i not weighted properly
reminder wrote
at 1:11 AM, Monday February 28, 2011 EST
What fiero suggested might be a cool idea to be honest.

What I want is slightly more feedback from the curse deniers, what should I do to have s**t luck? Roll 2v4s? Play def except connecting? I know you've mentioned some things before, but I'd like you to be crystal clear on this matter.

Or heck, just go ahead and try to prove fiero wrong yourself. I really feel that even if I technically blew those games according to all of your rules and still had >48%luck, it wouldn't be a proof enough to convince anyone.
Prince Of Persia wrote
at 1:21 AM, Monday February 28, 2011 EST
yeah except i wasn't blowing games on purpose. I got medals in months i had 45% luck. That theory is out the window
reminder wrote
at 1:24 AM, Monday February 28, 2011 EST
Same here, but hey the thing "you play a style that gets you shit luck" must be proven wrong somehow.
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 1:26 AM, Monday February 28, 2011 EST
you cant roll 2v4s, it will not give you low enough numbers,

If I am going to try this, I will try to do good 4v4, 5v5 or if I have none of them 5v4 and 4v3

the idea being that if I make it I will win, so I can roll many more times diluting my luck landin at about 50%

but if I loose, I will be dead and can insta flag

this should give me high % st, high % 7th


this is the idea anyways

If I try, I will use kakkus software to figure out great flaggingtimes, but I am not sure if its better to PGA while doing it or not, (I think I will not try this, because mods would probably not alow it)
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 1:29 AM, Monday February 28, 2011 EST
^^ the reason I migth need a PGA is that I might need someone to shield me from potential attacks when I am having bad luck, so that I can "sit" and get 5th after shielding
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