you need to -play one week all the cheaters, pretty much everyone in the top 100 when you catch them trading favors

imo make me a mod

if i fuck up, demod me, simple really.

1st offense proxy or PGA = 1 month
2nd offense = permaban

And bans should always be IP bans... it would make them a lot more effective.


Also, i kinda agree that there's something not totally right with alts (even if I sometimes use an alt). The alt thing deserves to be discussed, players generally use alts to be dicks to others while hiding or to proxy...

and : the site is moderatable but you can't handle all the modding alone. Ask Ryan to get more help imo.

but if there is a new mod, i say it should be absolutely anonymous

Get rid of probation- first offense cheating gets the account banned. No questions, no getbacks.

Ban any IPs that play shared accounts (and all associated accounts).

Ban all alts and IPs tied to a cheating account; reset all points.

Set clear guidelines of proof required to ban someone (ex: a screencast of the WHOLE game). This area seems vague now.

This conversation lacks real merit when Adam is sitting on a 5k with a supposedly banned account right now.

i dont think totally anonymous mods will work, just from a practical perspective. at some point, theyll accidentally out themselves a la KDICEMOD. i dunno.

did anyone change their game/scheme up after they realized that KDICEMOD was thrax? honest question.

"@ AlexBallDrop The joy of this game and the reason why I and so many enjoy it is that you can build relationships with other players, learn who to truce in-game, learn who to be nice to and who to be aggressive against....etc"

This is NOT how the game is supposed to work. This is exactly what leads to PGA and the cheating we are trying to avoid. Sure you can build a relationship with other players, but don't let this relationship influence your in-game play. Each color should be viewed objectively with no concern of the actual name of the player. If your best move is to move away from blue and hope to God he recognizes this act of niceness then by all means do this and hope for the best. If he hits you, then calmly alert him of what you were doing so that he understands your strategy in the future. You shouldn't form these truces with only certain people as it is terrible for the game and creates suspicions of PGA and cheating.Colors should be viewed as just colors game-to-game, instead of picking the same people to truce with thus creating a disadvantage for the other players at your table. Who is to say they don't understand silent truces and acts of "niceness" if you don't give them a chance?

Some good thoughts. Thanks for the discussion guys.........keep the ideas coming.

I'm fully aware that I can't moderate the site alone, and I've asked Ryan many times for some help (I made about 3 suggestions for mods).

I HATE alts and I think they are the scourge of this site; however, I'm pretty sure they aren't going anywhere.

Shared accounts are abused too much to allow for sharing of any type. Unfortunately this is an example of a coupled bad apples spoiling it for the rest. Nothing is more annoying than to see a shared account that nobody cares about donate points while PGEing the person that group wants to see lose points. It's unfair and it sucks.

Harsher punishments, as you have probably noticed recently, have become the only potential deterrant I see towards curbing the cheating around here. I can't control zeroing out main accounts lifetime points even though I agree that this would hit egos where they hurt. IP bans are the most annoying thing to work around, so they would probably work pretty well especially when Ryan gives me the list of accounts associated with that IP and I ban them all (like earlier this morning).

Anyways, good thoughts. Keep the ideas coming...