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Cowardice, gutlessness, and "oh i flag".
jimmycolorado wrote
at 7:17 PM, Monday April 20, 2009 EDT
So, it's been my displeasure to witness despicable acts of cowardice on kdice so frequently that I can nearly guarantee you'll see it every game. The specific act? The "oh I flag to you" message.

Why do I think this is a problem? I'll attempt to explain it to you pea-brained peons.

What happens when someone calls "oh I flag" when the game is say 3 or 4 rounds in? It causes the person who they flagged to, obviously the one with a slight lead on everyone else, to change their focus to other players on the board. Nothing wrong with that you say... WRONG! The person who called the "oh I flag" is now being ignored and free to sit there like a little sissy and watch as the leader takes out everyone else.

He's the smart one, you say. Well, he's increased his position in the game, that's for sure, but as for smart? No, definitely not. He's taking advantage of a situation to the ultimate detriment of everyone else. So, you say, he's still getting a better position so he has to be smart? You could argue this point for a while, but what it really comes down to is enjoyment & cowardice, vs a few points. The flagger is not smart, he's just making the game less enjoyable for everyone else and being a coward. Smart or not, well it can't really be proved... but I'll always counter that argument with the fact that he may be smart, but he's a pathetic coward.

It's part of the game, you say. It's not part of the game. It's not written in the rules, it's not a guideline, it's not kosher. The game is about taking territories and fighting until there is a victor and only a couple of challengers left. Those challengers were the ones who fought well, held their territory, and crushed their opposition to hold 2nd or 3rd. The ones who DO NOT deserve 2nd or 3rd are the ones who called "oh i flag" and then sat there, not earning their position.

But flags are part of the game, you say... again. Yes, flags are, when you click that little button. Calling a "flag" in chat is NOT flagging, it's trucing. If you want to flag, click the flag and accept your position. Calling a "flag" (aka a truce) is meant to boost your position in the game, not accept defeat.

In real life you need allies. True. This is not real life... this is a game that is meant to be fun. Calling these bullcrap flags is EXACTLY the same as saying "lets truce", but for some reason nobody sees that. I've seen quite a few people rage up about "trucing", but there's too many morons playing who don't consider "oh i flag" the same as a truce. It is exactly the same.

Hopefully that has got you thinking. I have a particular hatred for this "oh I flag" crap because I play this game for a bit of friendly competition, and to pit my strategies against the opposition. I also watch sport on TV because it has good competition, not because I want to see one side, 5 minutes in after being scored against, say "oh we flag".

What I want you all to do is not accept "oh i flag" anymore. I want to drive this culture out of KDice, so that we can have some good competitive games. I accept actual flags when I'm winning, for sure. I will never accept "flags".

The dice, the territories, the strategy and the competition are what KDice is all about. The cowardly written "flags" are not.

Think about it.


jimmycolorado, aka the flag rager.

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wiggin1 wrote
at 3:37 AM, Friday April 24, 2009 EDT
Storm, that's not how words work. :)
vIRGIL wrote
at 12:51 PM, Friday April 24, 2009 EDT
Chess is played with 2
jilm2 wrote
at 1:05 PM, Friday April 24, 2009 EDT
Flag is an offer, no-one should take it different. What really destroys the game, I think, is the widespread rule, that you have to respect flags whatever happens.
bcmatteagles wrote
at 2:20 PM, Friday April 24, 2009 EDT
Simple solution, organize a counter to the vflag arrangement. if they bitch and moan about it not being a truce, they're lieing cause it is effectively a truce.
noMon wrote
at 5:06 PM, Friday April 24, 2009 EDT
Best post ever. vFlag = "i'm cool" = truce. And they should all be countered and beaten into the ground. This post seems to be changing the game a bit. I even see people referencing it mid game when whiny trucers complain about getting slapped down to 6th/7th.

Awesome.
Alala Alala wrote
at 7:02 PM, Friday April 24, 2009 EDT
The v-flaggers seem to be taking it personally. It must hard to face the fact the many of your games are played with your dignity on the floor.
jimmycolorado wrote
at 7:33 PM, Friday April 24, 2009 EDT
Really noMon? Fan-friggin-tastic!

:-D
noMon wrote
at 2:40 PM, Monday April 27, 2009 EDT
I only saw it referenced once but it seems like there has been a shift in the gameplay away from vflagging especially at the 100's and 500's. Still see a lot of it at the 0's but they get beat once they get up to the hundreds. Can't say about the higher tables...
Realize wrote
at 2:48 PM, Monday April 27, 2009 EDT
See, my problem is more the people who never put together a serious month with good ppg and yet feel entitled to give themselves titles such as "the flag rager."

I've been pissed lately (the 25 games ive played this month) at the people who flag when they dont need too. I definitely think people are too quick to flag. That's there problem. It means they are willing to settle for points rather than to challenge themselves to get a better position and more Dom. Dom is the savior though. As long as doms around it will always be better to kick somebodies ass than it will be to settle for an early flag.

That is, if you can get to the 500 tables of course. But if you're not experienced enough to get to the 500 tables, should you really be posting long forum messages about what's wrong with the game?
pkrangerpk wrote
at 3:17 PM, Monday April 27, 2009 EDT
to quote a couple lines:

"He's the smart one, you say. Well, he's increased his position in the game, that's for sure, but as for smart? No, definitely not. He's taking advantage of a situation to the ultimate detriment of everyone else. So, you say, he's still getting a better position so he has to be smart?"


how the hell does this make any bloody sense????? people agree kdice is a big game of luck. another part of the game is stratagy. and the last, diplomacy.

isn't a person that does exactly what you desribed there, excellent at diplomacy which is half of the skill based part of the game?
your an idiot.
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