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How to act when you first sit at high tables
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montecarlo wrote
at 7:34 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST
this is in response to olk's reply in ryan's thread about pga = cheating. i didnt want to sidetrack that thread, but i did want to reply to olk's comment:
"The most part of the top players are friendly with a lots of other top players and find them randomly at tables. They have tendency to attack the new coming they don't know. For me it is as a PGA..." --olk i totally agree with you on this point. this is the way it has always been. back in january when i first made an appearance on the top tables (2000s i think), everyone knew that the elitist bastards who were 2000 regulars would pwn your ass immediately and shoot you back down to the 1800 tables. in light of this, i decided to be nice when i first made it up there. i took my 5th like a man, and went back to 1800. i had a decent shot at 3rd, maybe 2nd, but then they all realized that i was a 2000 noob and they wanted to reward each other. i understood. and didnt bitch about it. and told them it was cool. and their reaction: they raised their collective eyebrow, and said they would remember my charm. so the next time i played 2000, the same thing happened all over again. the third time, the castle burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. BUT THE FOURTH TIME, i had enough positive memory on the 2000 tables that they let me keep the 2nd place that i earned. and they let me stay in their circle. psychologically, this all makes sense. if you play with the same group of people for hundreds of games, and you respect the way they play and their personality, then you will tend to help them when given the choice of help them or help someone you dont know. so i decided that i needed these 2000 people to get to know me, you know, cus i think im a pretty nice guy. and after 4 games of getting pwnd by them, they decided i was a nice guy, and i had a good personality. now, if you want to make it EXTREMELY hard to stay at the high tables, the ABSOLUTE worst thing you can do is bitch at them when they gang up and hand you a 5th instead of your deserved 2nd/3rd. the other TERRIBLE thing you can do is, while bitching, call them all PGAs. especially in this day and era, where pgas are officially cheaters. based on my experience, on all tables of all levels, whenever i call someone a cheater, they will ALWAYS attack me for several games in a row after that. so, a quick overview. to stay on the high tables: 1) be humble, take your undeserved 5th place like a man, and make a joke about it (people love humor in kdice). 2) never accuse the upper tables of pga as soon as you are sent to a lower table. honestly, i think this is good advice. even from an american! |
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§ilverfox wrote
at 11:32 PM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST "Soda-Pop - I think you want to go play dicewars." ~Kehoe
Maybe so. I myself would play dice wars exclusively if the AI there were of human quality. You misunderstand (probably deliberately), Kehoe, that the "human element" we seek here is the higher degree of skill/strategy. NOT the social BS that invariably goes with people. If there were a higher degree of skill/strategy at dice wars, I estimate this site would lose 1/3 of its patrons. No offense, Ryan. :) |
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cadpilot wrote
at 12:26 AM, Friday December 7, 2007 EST monte for president!!
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SodaPop wrote
at 12:27 AM, Friday December 7, 2007 EST really this is quite sad.
sure if you want to sell yourself out and kiss ass go ahead. "Soda-Pop - I think you want to go play dicewars." ~Kehoe Kehoe - i think you want a "Pre Game Advantage" for knowing people at the table. make some friends in the real world, play kdice for what it is a board game... ...not a social game |
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r0n wrote
at 1:03 AM, Friday December 7, 2007 EST "...not a social game."
My lord. |
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vitaminK wrote
at 1:05 AM, Friday December 7, 2007 EST Thanks monte for the life lesson. This is how things work in the real world too. Charm wields more power than calculation.
Think about it next time before you complain to your boss your monitor is too small. |
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bcmatteagles wrote
at 6:11 AM, Friday December 7, 2007 EST The tactical aspects of the game aren't that complicated. Any decent player should learn which lands are the right ones to attack after a couple weeks of play. Sure there are some nuances that you notice as you go on.
But beyond this the only difference in the game is the social aspect of who attacks who and why. It's as simple as that. Learn to get good at managing who attacks who or you'll always hit a ceiling where you feel like you can't get any higher. |
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unlucky9999 wrote
at 9:49 AM, Friday December 7, 2007 EST Well, yeah panzer was awsome. He was my hero!!! He was the most awsome person in kdice! lol
Serriously, he was cool, thats why he stayed. And ofc he had skillz/strategy/luck and im kinda sad that he quited. Anyways, u have 2 know when to be nice, when to be a bastard, when to threaten, when 2 say : congrats with win, gg and etc. Its more like as a much a social game as a strategy. I think your placing depends on : 15% luck, 50% of Skills, 30% good socialising and 5% of random other things. Ofc, there are some ways in getting upper or getting lower. Anyways, i agree with grun and i say : U have 2 be a somebody to stay up there. U have to have smthing from your own, maybe a unique playing style, interesting chatting or smthing. So, do smthing! |
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Grunvagr wrote
at 10:34 AM, Friday December 7, 2007 EST People play this game to be entertained. Either this happens by playing the game, or by talking to people while playing the game.
If you do something, are known for something, or achieve something, people will like you or dislike you. But at least you make them FEEL something, something real and tangible. That's why if you want to win. Have a damn personality. p.s. I am winning December. |
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unlucky9999 wrote
at 11:47 AM, Friday December 7, 2007 EST Well, yeah, personality is a must. And most of higher table players come here to talk :D
P.s. im not winning December lol |
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5er wrote
at 4:47 PM, Friday December 7, 2007 EST chatbox = social game
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