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Integral rnd Montecarlo
leekstep wrote
at 11:44 PM, Saturday June 30, 2007 EDT
Ryan,

Most players have been pissed off lately by PGAs, secret ones that arent coordinated by actions on the board or in the chat box.

There was a group of people who seemed to be doing this the most, whom i call the cabal.

According to integral and montecarlo, The cabal is: cabal: rnd, riser, wishbone, dasfury, montecarlos, vermont, integral, bcmatteagles, x luck x, xcrobin


During my investigation, I met many people interested in taking down the cabal. The cabal would base their gameplay on instant messages. (the game to most people is about working the board and the chat box, deciding the game over a group of people on instant messenger is not part of the game). We even formed an informal team to take down the cabal.

Last month, our team decided that the best anti-PGA, and anti-cabal effort...
...would be helping X LUCK X beat rnd. Rnd had become cocky and everyone in kDice knew he was fixing games with people on IM. They would domfuck and manufacture finishes and make the game unnatural, elongated, and boring.

Our team succeeded in getting X LUCK X first, and I think we sort of taught rnd a lesson.

But then Luck had an elo that was undeserved and too high, and the cabal needed to PGA even more to compete with him. And so it went, IMs and PGAs intensifying (instead of teaching a lesson against PGAs, it only caused more).

This month i was able to infiltrate the cabal by chatting with them, and they started being nice to me. Eventually i was accepted by them and invited to join them in their cheating.

Mikeypoo has also wanted to take down the cabal, and I invited him to witness the cheating of the cabal.

I have attached the log for the first flagfest...
I beleive this is when Integral took first elo (see related news event).

There was a second flagfest (when Integral took first overall there is also a news avent).

Just by reading the public news events, everyone was able to see that Integral was winning his games in the first round or two.

Anyone who bothered to check the news can see that the game is ruled by a farce. A cheater broke the game to win it!

Please note that I'm hoping for immunity for me and Mikeypoo, because our only goal was to take these cheaters down. That's why we were involved, to spy on them.

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mike@in-russia wrote
at 12:06 PM, Sunday July 1, 2007 EDT
I agree with MAGNUS completely, absolutely. Thats right. This is social game and i love this game because its very very social.
Do you need PGA - make it. Do you need Anti-PGA - make it. All this is in your hands.
leekstep wrote
at 3:08 PM, Sunday July 1, 2007 EDT
Ryan,
No need to ruin integral's player page. Teams and controversy are good for the vitality of kDice.

If it wasnt for Integral, we'd just have the secret Germans PGAs and we'd all need to speak Deutsch to be in the top 10.

The Germans were the first gang of PGAs, the cabal just another, the anti-cabal is a gang, too.

And next month, we'll all be bitching about the russiamike-longhair gang.
integra1 wrote
at 3:57 PM, Sunday July 1, 2007 EDT
"For now, I have the lowest elo, and hopefully no one can take that away from me. "

901 sucker, I took it away!
super strut wrote
at 4:34 PM, Sunday July 1, 2007 EDT
leekstep... you suck ;-)

german pga-gang. that´s boring. you need to speak german to be in top 10... I remember no german in top 10 of june... ?!?

in top 25 there are perhaps 5 - sajin, hatty, Tom-ster, me and MadWilly. and you know all of us - we play not more or less pga then everybody else on 2k, and not only with us!

my best pga-friends are japanese and canadian... ;)
Vermont wrote
at 6:25 PM, Sunday July 1, 2007 EDT
I have never IMed another kdice player. Ever. And I would NEVER EVER PGA with rnd anyway. I couldn't stand the month where he had 50%+ firsts due to PG allying. I've posted several comments to his profile regarding such but he seems to delete them for some reason. ;)

wish, fury, monte, luck and int are great fun guys to play with, but I don't even know what their IM IDs are. Although that certainly would make things easier! ;)
super strut wrote
at 6:26 PM, Sunday July 1, 2007 EDT
... and btw, there are a lot of germans or austrians I really don´t like. For example Michaeldegratia or this ugly fuzzycat (seem that I don´t like cats at all... ;-)

And a lot of german players, who aren´t my PGA-friends - marvels for example. I can´t say that I don´t like him, but I don´t play with him as a friend.
leekstep wrote
at 8:41 PM, Sunday July 1, 2007 EDT
Please note:
Even though Vermont admitted being in the cabal, I never saw him play. He denies using IMs or ever helping RND. I only know that he was in the cabal, but not aware of any bad behavior.
leekstep wrote
at 9:14 PM, Sunday July 1, 2007 EDT
Aixo, I am very sorry for not being more sensitive to German players. I was just making the point that PGA groups are inevitable.

Germans were famous for PGAs before March. This was a primary inspiration for the formation of the cabal.

Perhaps I was offensive in my exaggeration that the pre-March cabals would have eventually taken the top 10 (meaning you would need to speak German in high elo games).

I'm jus trying to point out that integral isnt the devil, and he was just having fun and pushing the limits like many other people are doing.

There are several groups of people who have assumed PGAs. Integral, rnd, luck, montecarlo are mentioned and notable because they were the most succesful of these groups.

It could have been any other group to take the top spots...
however, in the past few months the most successful group was the cabal.

I am not passing judgement on anyone, I am just reporting the facts.

I think Integral makes kDice fun. So does RND, monte, luck, XC... aixo, mikeinrussia, longhair, etc. It is a skill to recognize PGAs and deal with them.
rnd wrote
at 11:54 PM, Sunday July 1, 2007 EDT
what the hell?

lol.

vermont, you know your pga with wishbone, monte, and int is just as bad as anything anyone else has ever done. stop trying to be the bride in white -- you're already deflowered and we all know it.
X LUCK X wrote
at 12:12 AM, Monday July 2, 2007 EDT
3 things and my bit.

1) Chill the hell out. It's a game. Relax.

2) I am a better player than integral.

3) Integral is a better player than me.

Honestly, you people bitch to much. Integral took first. So what? It's a virtual trophy. If it means so damn much to you complaining bastards, get some friends and go for first. Hell, even better, take my trophy. Talk to Ryan, and he'll give you my first trophy and it won't mean a thing to me.

Honestly, I know I can beat anyone of you in any given game, and likewise, I can lose to any of you in a game on any given day. For the most part though, I know I can outplay any person who plays this game, and I sure as hell don't need a trophy saying I can do that. I'm pretty sure integral and rnd feel the same way. We are good players, we know it, and they know it. We know we can school you.

Stop getting all worked up over nothing. Most of you are supposed adults. Relax, and take a breather. It's a game. Treat it like one, not a life-threatening conspiracy.

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