all the pictures show is 4. cheateing and you did admit that earlier saying you were just gonna ban 4. for asking if I wanted 1st but then you saw OTF actions afterwards of me taking advantage of him trying to cheat with me.

This is all things you said. And you also Admitted earlier it was OTF. If you want to tell me where in the pictures of me cheating, please tell go back to my earlier comment and refute something.

I already agreed i OTF someone at 6:30 in the morning at a 0 table because he was the only player that was possible to truce with and knew how to play.

but i never accepted any 1/2 truce with me being first or 1st place hand outs and I also never screwed anyone out of a position

What proc said and did was different. I care a lot less about chat than I do actual moves. If proc would have funneled you, I agree, ban. But she didn't. I don't get your point here.

In any case, I feel you are just grasping at straws here and keep bringing up random points that have nothing to do with the fact that you cheated.

I honestly didn't want to ban you because I knew this would the the discourse. I didn't (and still don't) really want to deal with it. But I'm a mod and it's my job, so I did it.

There is NO grey line here. She deliberately cheated and did funnel me points by not attacking me and suiciding out of the game onto my enemies in 1-2 turns. I went from -100 to +50. which is a lot on a 100 table.

That again, is not something I can control but as long as youre banning people for cheating with me I think that should be punished as well.There is no grey line there.


"I honestly didn't want to ban you because I knew this would the the discourse."

--any Grey line area where the mod chooses if it's cheating or not is motivated with the mod wanting to push towards banning. I don't see how this can be true.

On another side note. Hardcore OTF/PGA affects the ENTIRE table, mate. It is basically unfair to anyone that doesn't know about your OTF. In fact, I would argue OTF/PGA has a much bigger effect on low level tables than higher ones. I want this site to prosper. New-ish players play on lower level tables. Using an unfair advantage on them detracts from their sense of the game. Higher level players can notice OTF/PGA and can deal with it accordingly.

Your point that you cheated and it had no effect on any other players is simply wrong. OTF/PGA affects everyone other than those in the partnership. I don't see how you can readily admit that you cheated and try to downplay it as if no one was really hurt. Good luck with that line of logic.

On another side note. Hardcore OTF/PGA affects the ENTIRE table, mate. It is basically unfair to anyone that doesn't know about your OTF. In fact, I would argue OTF/PGA has a much bigger effect on low level tables than higher ones. I want this site to prosper. New-ish players play on lower level tables. Using an unfair advantage on them detracts from their sense of the game. Higher level players can notice OTF/PGA and can deal with it accordingly.

I agree hardcore OTF affects the entire table. Which is why mine wasnt hardcore. All of the other players didn't even want to flag. No flag was rejected. Just because I move away and flag and settle for 2nd while he kills everyone for the points and they are too noobish to flag to him doesn't mean the OTF of me moving away or not cutting him affected it.

He had something to gain, kill points. If you dont want him to kill the entire board tell ryan to get rid of kills when people dont know what flagging is.

Your point that you cheated

--I never said I cheated wtf. I said I OTFd

and it had no effect on any other players is simply wrong. OTF/PGA affects everyone other than those in the partnership.
-it had no affect(effect is wrong here) on the players position that they got.
The reason others lost is because of lack of flags and understanding of how kills work. 4. wanted kills and he got as many as he can when no one flagged. I'm not saying I agree with what 4. did but that has nothing to do with me.

I don't see how you can readily admit that you cheated and try to downplay it as if no one was really hurt. Good luck with that line of logic.

--My OTF didnt even turn into a truce. I allowed everyone to go for the spot they wanted but they didnt want a spot and never claimed one.

Having someone who knows the game and knows kills are worth more than 1st place at 0 tables will have him acquiring kills as long as there are no flags.

this had nothing to do with my otf as stated earlier


I'm not just grasping at straws, ive played this game a long time and this is honestly what I believe. I'm not trying to insult you either or make this as hostile as youre making it

Gurgi got BDK to ban his own alt?

I did not PGA anywhere, it was 6:30 in the morning, I did want to go 1/2 that game, If we did go 1/2, I definitely don't think that was PGA, because I was able to cut 4.. just needed gurgi's help. Gurgi had class at 8, he wanted to get the game done to start another because 2=3, and going 1/2 would have taken forever. So those first few screenshots are bullshit.

I already accepted that I can't beat a mod that doesn't like me

if he wants to say OTF = PGA with the grey area clause to ban me idk what i can do cause the next few pictures only are about me declining a pga from two different players

geegee

This site has gone to shit.