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summer banning spree
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jurgen wrote
at 9:21 AM, Monday August 19, 2013 EDT
Even though I prefer letting the top players govern themselves as much as possible, I need to step in again and sound the alarm.
The main bans concern Slinus, Ali/integral and Jesse/nightfury. There has been some massive point funneling, including on the test server. @ Int, you pga'ed and shared yet another account so as your ban comment states, don't expect your old main back soon. Some things go way back until February 2013. It was clear that Jesse helped Slinus to her first gold but also that some others helped too. Anyway, I left it all unpunished because I stand by my rule that I only want to ban when I'm completely sure about my case. It's hard to look inside someone else's brain (or chatlogs) so that's why some people get the benefit of the doubt. But that doesn't mean things don't add up or that I "forget" about stuff over time. Everything came together this month and I think it's time to end some things that are going out of control. Some banned people might yell "Hey but I didn't do anything this month, why do I get a ban now?". Well maybe that's not ideal but it is still deserved. Also I expect some mad people saying they don't pga, only otf. Well, maybe you tell yourself that and it might actually fool yourself. Some people seem to think that pga means never attacking each other, or always saving each other or constantly communicating via an external chatbox. Well if you put it that way, no one pga's and everyone is otf. OK so here's the thing. There's a whole bunch of players that I could have given a warning ban too. Again, I only banned when completely sure and I hope I would have been wrong about all or most of the others anyway. I'm not even going list a bunch of warned people. Everyone should just assume they are warned and if you think you're playing ok, fine, please enjoy yourself. But it might just be a good thing to evaluate your playstyle with your biggest otf (if you have any) now and then. And I know it's hard to draw the line between pga and otf. It's impossible to say OK you can do this but not this. Every thing is so game related and it depends on the frequency of the otf favors that you give. So, in conclusion, I can't explain or define where the line between pga and otf is. BUT WHAT I CAN DEFINE is when someone has clearly crossed the line. So if you want to be safe, stay as far away from the imaginary line as you can. That doesn't mean you can't trust or truce people that you know. It simply means you attack them when it's your best move to win the game. Or when they don't flag you but you have a +2 stack on them to clean up their entire base. Anyway, it actually shouldn't be THAT hard to have some common sense. PS: I hardly banned any alts of people but I expect everyone to not play alts until the end of the month. If I see alts being played anyway, they will be banned too and the first ban could become longer. PPS: thanks Sophie/Slinus for owning up to the cheating (after a bit of denying at first :P) and accepting the ban. |
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nodice4u wrote
at 10:23 PM, Friday August 23, 2013 EDT since you claim to be the real veta, join the permaban
-changeAvatar -chat -play -post -re-register |
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jurgen wrote
at 2:26 PM, Saturday August 24, 2013 EDT well if it acts like a veta and talks like a veta... :)
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THE NIGGLER wrote
at 6:30 PM, Sunday August 25, 2013 EDT If it acts like a veta and talks like a veta, then it's probably me.
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nodice4u wrote
at 8:35 PM, Sunday August 25, 2013 EDT "well if it acts like a veta and talks like a veta... :)"
The funny thing is that I had no affiliation with Veta until after this lol... |
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ji-jo wrote
at 3:14 PM, Tuesday August 27, 2013 EDT Glad to see you finally moving, jurgz.
Now, keep up that work. |
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uglygolfball wrote
at 9:21 PM, Friday August 30, 2013 EDT BAN THRAX, MONTE, AND DAS!
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Dude111 wrote
at 10:54 PM, Friday August 30, 2013 EDT I can see why people cheat, I get a crazy amount of pussy from my bronze trophey, also fuck you slinus, thanks for owning up to cheating? fuck you! cheaters are pussies who are afraid to fight fair, who gives a fuck about points? losers, and people who want crazy pussy from trophies, it's crazy like really crazy, gotta go my phone is blowing up
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jurgen wrote
at 11:01 AM, Sunday September 1, 2013 EDT alright, it's the start of a new month. Let's hope we'll see a "normal" competition again.
time to unban a few people and explain the deal for the others * Slinus: I will unban slina because you came clean about everything and I think you've learned your lesson. Slinus and Yii will remain banned for at least 2 or 3 months though. That will give you enough time to prove yourself again. You're banned from playing for podium this month though. * Delzzz: took the ban like a champ and I'm sure I won't see any problems with you again * Sprinttx: since you kept playing new accounts and completely ignored my ban, I will free TrevorW and you're free to play but I will keep gatsby and sprinttx banned for an extra 2-4 weeks. Actual length will depend on what I see next. * Nightfury: you're a clever negotiator, maybe you should try and become a defence lawyer. You gave me enough reasons to unban you but don't let me ever catch anything fishy again or it will be hard to negotiate yourself out of that one. * IntegrAli: Even though you have a very fun side, I'm seriously wondering if you could ever play without cheating or causing trouble. I'm going to ban you from blue medals (or top3);5k tables and high buyin tournaments for now (anything above 500 point buyin). Let's see how that works out for a while. Just be happy I didn't permaban you yet. *Nokia: last chance to prove to me that you can play without pgaing some of your close friends like murti, kostur, alec |
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Vermont wrote
at 11:09 AM, Sunday September 1, 2013 EDT You really think that Jesse won't go back to cheating again? I'm impressed with the naivete. (that may be too harsh a word, but I'm not coming up with anything better.)
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jurgen wrote
at 11:16 AM, Sunday September 1, 2013 EDT no vermont, I think he will be permabanned soon.
but I gave my word in a deal and I stick to my word |