after his coke habit fades

Forgot how ELO works... Or maybe it was before my time...

PETE why did you call timeout jackass!!!

I bet he was on adderall.

ELO was great and it deserves to be a ranking on the side on Kdice. If not, I will certainly lobby for it on warso...eh...somewhere else.

However, ELO was also the system that started conditioning some players to pga and otf in order to stay high in the rankings.

Once your ELO was high, the only way was down again. The only way to stay at your peak (or to get to the new highest table limit if it increased) was to sit on a table with a good combination of a few lower ranked noobs (just above 2000 points at the 2000 table limit for example - easy to farm) and some higher ranked players that you knew would probably kill off the noobs first. I'm actually mainly talking about the second highest table limit here.

Real noobs only reached the real top tables by extreme lucky streaks so at the top table, there were basically only good players. That was another great aspect of ELO tbh. The downside of it was that people got really picky when and with who they sat: elo points of the other players mattered but ALSO who you could easily trust not to be screwed by. BAM! OTF was born

I wonder how the new generation of players would react and adapt to elo. I think it will be a completely different elo game now. People have learned how to play tournaments now (there were no tournaments during the different elo systems we had). In ELO games, your gains/losses not only depend on your placing in the game but also on how well/bad the players with high elo did. In a way, tournament games are a bit similar.

they would fail since you would need to earn points in table play, not gather them at almost no risk in tournies and then come over to tables, -ppg for top25 players?? That's ridiculous....

probably...but I said "I wonder" because again, I think that some aspects of an ELO game are similar to tournament games (surviving bad starts and doing better than other players with high elo/tournament points, learning how to take into account elo points or tourney points of your oppenents for decisions such as who to flag to, who to attack or truce, etc).

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Jurgen sitting at a table with high ELO that had people with low ELO is pointless and likely suicidal. Well the premise you are arguing isn't entirely off the logic you are using is completely WRONG.

2300 elo sitting with one let alone two or three sub 2100 elo players has a chance to maybe win 10 points for 1st, anything less will be a negative likely.

The nature of ELO made it hard to rake points mutually, you tended to have to support one player to pump their ELO well others had minor gains or dealt with dumping points off, this is why people developed alts.

With ELO cheating, PGA, OTF, required a coordination that isn't needed now. Now it is just the expected that you will always get a chance for points no matter your position because players think that is what they deserve.

Jurgen sitting at a table with high ELO that had people with low ELO is pointless and likely suicidal. Well the premise you are arguing isn't entirely off the logic you are using is completely WRONG.

2300 elo sitting with one let alone two or three sub 2100 elo players has a chance to maybe win 10 points for 1st, anything less will be a negative likely.

The nature of ELO made it hard to rake points mutually, you tended to have to support one player to pump their ELO well others had minor gains or dealt with dumping points off, this is why people developed alts.

With ELO cheating, PGA, OTF, required a coordination that isn't needed now. Now it is just the expected that you will always get a chance for points no matter your position because players think that is what they deserve.