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since i threatened to post all this, i guess i have to
montecarlo wrote
at 11:59 PM, Tuesday May 31, 2011 EDT
TL;DR

CLIFFS:
1) sado thought i dicked him in the grand finale.
2) on the final frenzy of 5k tables, he has an obv connect through a thin-middle-line nodice, which will also destroy nodice. he refuses to take it.
3) i then make the accusation that he is not cutting nodice because he is pge-ing me, and doesnt want me to beat nodice in the monthly standings.
4) he says yes that is the reason he isnt making the obv move, because he is pge-ing me... even though im not playing the game? ok.
5) nodice goes on to win due to this "pge", and thereby gets 1st on the last game of the month! (nice!)

i aint got anything against nodice, ive been in similar situations where people are gifting me something i dont deserve because they have some other ulterior motives. he got his 1st, whether earned or not, who cares. he didnt actively cheat.

but sado was just loony. id request a ban on him, but he has already stated several times that he is quitting this game cus ppl take it too srsly. .... except he was the one that was taking it the most srsly, so good idea to quit.

chatlogs and screencaps to follow.

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montecarlo wrote
at 1:11 PM, Wednesday June 1, 2011 EDT
fonias, sado wasnt explicitly trying to get nodice 1st. he was trying to make me mad (and he was so blinded by rage that he didnt realize that i wasnt being affected by the funnel.)

so your scenario is a little different. sados funnel wasnt premeditated, it was spur-of-the-moment-FUCK-YOU-MONTE. if it had been premeditated, i would suggest a much longer ban.

but yes, you got dicked out of a gold.

yah, das, order of events that game:
monte: i flag 4th
two big neighbors: to us???
monte: yah, to yall
nodice (on opposite side of map): i just want 3rd
everyone: cool

then i roll past his area to go south and presumably fight sado (or whoever was my threat for 4th). then he hits me once, and i go into rage-monte mode. and he was like shit, i didnt realize you only wanted 4th. but it was too late, i had outstacked him, and was like FUUUUUUUUUUU, then hit him back.

we both realized sado was slowly getting bigger in south while we were picking at each other. nodice was in the middle thank god. so i made the obv statement towards sado, 'nodice, im not worried about you, because eventually sado is coming north'. sados reply was something like 'dont put words in my mouth, im just sitting here.'

so he put his own words in his own mouth, i.e. i will stack and watch yall kill each other and thereby solidify safety. nodice and i both INSTArealized this, and were like fuck that, were both bigger than you (to ourselves), and then i instaproposed a truce, and nodice instaaccepted. cue the sado rage, especially when i kept insisting on not accepting his flag, and blaming him for it all.

was a fun game where nodice and i worked very well together (he would later forget that, ofc :P )
dasfury wrote
at 1:13 PM, Wednesday June 1, 2011 EDT
well you punished him for unloading the dishwasher
dasfury wrote
at 1:14 PM, Wednesday June 1, 2011 EDT
and lets not forget that none of this would have happened if one round prior, someone would have listened to me when i said 'kill monte or he will go into manip overdrive'
Boner_Oiler wrote
at 1:18 PM, Wednesday June 1, 2011 EDT
Lol, I stumble into 1 game at the end of the month and and people give me 1st. I'm pretty sure Fonias and Kostur funnel points all month long and pga at will. Maybe I didn't earn the win that 1 game but what about the other 85k? I get in games where Murti refuses to attack Kostur, what do you call that?

I feel like I played fair and earned my medal. I shouldn't have won the last game but there are plenty of games all month long that get fucked up. So be mad at me for taking whats given to me.

kdiceplaya!: monte you just tlaked ND into gold

KJ Sado: true story

KJ Sado: i dont pga nod

I don't pga anyone

nodice4u: anyone who knows my email or im shout it out!
montecarlo wrote
at 1:20 PM, Wednesday June 1, 2011 EDT
yah chloe, if you werent around for that month... meagles was a fuckin tool. i dont know if others were planning on funneling points to nuflis. i know i wasnt, i just wanted to bronze, since gold/silver were out of the question due to nuf/voh being WAY ahead. i would rather nuf had gotten 1st, because i always hated the fiero/voh/weakFemales pga on 500 tables. but i never funneled nuf or pged voh. maybe others did?

i remember at end of month looking at nufs stats and being like HOLY SHIT. something like 32% 1sts over a span of 300+ games. that is an extreme outlier. but maybe it was legit, i dunno.

anyways, as i was saying, meagles was a massive tool. he started forum posts claiming that there was a group that was prepared to point funnel nuf to 1st because voh was a cheating scumbag.

wtf????

the problem was that fiero was the only mod (disregarding grun/skrum who never had a grasp on reality when it came to cheating). so fiero grasped that as evidence that there was a mass pga clan for nuf. and Ryan bought into the idea (the fact that meagles would cuss him out every time they ran into each other didnt help anybody.)

so fiero massbanned everyone except voh and upmax, who was a friend of his, and far enough away that he wouldnt catch up with voh. Ryan did a point reset on both nuf and voh, but left voh in 1st.

and im not going to go further than that, because it is a dark chapter in my khistory.
montecarlo wrote
at 1:25 PM, Wednesday June 1, 2011 EDT
nodice no one is accusing you here, please re-read everyones posts. i think we all agree that it is too shallow to blame you for accepting a free gift. some of us have been in that position before, and done the same thing. those who havent been in that spot have admitted that it would be an epic struggle to turn down the gift.

you played legit bro, and you won the month!

one of my standard lines that i give a few times each month (because it happens fairly regularly)

monte: sometimes wins arent taken, but given.

and i say that after i win, and my opponents are all like, yup, gg :)

basically because i accidentally walked into a pge-vs-pge, and i benefit. which is what happened to you on the final table. except sado was pge-ing someone who wasnt sitting at the table, which is the first time ive ever seen that (blind rage ftw!)
montecarlo wrote
at 1:29 PM, Wednesday June 1, 2011 EDT
yah the dishwasher punishment was 50/50. if i had my head on straight (and if i had played with nodice at all over the past several months), maybe i wouldve remembered that he never stabs. i honestly forget if he does or doesnt, i just assumed that given the opportunity he would stab.

plus, das, youre there in the gallery constantly yelling to everyone to gangbang me, and we both know that is not without effect (which is why we do it to each other.)

plus its the friggin grand finale, so its uber-tense and everyone is paranoid.

and tbh that was a perfect set-up for a stab. he was already flagged 2nd, so it seemed like an open invite for mars to help him stab me. and i knew they were both sorta pissy at me for how i worked with kibble early on that round, and then stated that i wanted to gift him the 3rd place safety in return of him not pwning me in round 1.

meh, standard grand finale in all honesty. well, standard for me i mean.
nodice4u wrote
at 1:33 PM, Wednesday June 1, 2011 EDT
Okay, thanks man. I wish I could have played with you back in the day.

If you think about that 1 round I ended up losing a lot and it went to mars. We ended up last 2, maybe I get 2nd that round I win tourney and the last game is moot.
montecarlo wrote
at 1:38 PM, Wednesday June 1, 2011 EDT
yah, a lot hung on that tourney, and none of us knew it at the time. we thought we were vying for a possible bronze lol.

easy for me to think, what if, what if mars didnt dick me that one round where i killed cambs to get the safe 3rd (with ~80% shot at 2nd). i lost a shitload of points that round. if i had gotten 2nd in the tourney, i wouldve been golden :P

but its neat after you get your gold, you dont care quite* as much about such what-ifs.

*but you still wonder...
superxchloe wrote
at 1:47 PM, Wednesday June 1, 2011 EDT
yeah I wasn't around til oct 08. 'cause i became friends with voh asking about july 08 seemed like a bad idea. thanks for the khistory monte.
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