I'm laughing my ass off at veta saying that more cheating goes on below the 2k's that above it.

Veta metete la cabeza por el culo porfavor. No necesitamos las mentiras que salen de la boca tuya.

DDDY that's a valid point, but the explanation is in the question itself. If you believe there are different tiers of skill then you should agree that being a noob and sitting with a table full of skilled players the noob will have trouble winning the game. Good players smell weakness and bad players exude it, that's enough to explain most of the "PGA!!!" calls you lower table players make.

And yodel, you must be crazy to think less cheating goes on in 500s. If you obviously cheat in high tables people catch on and there will be retribution.

If two players on any board 0 - 5k are agreeing to 1st, sit still and gradually stack.

Then those players let the other 5 duke it out, losing ground while those two work to stack up.

Then as 7th drops out, 6th dies, and those two players even if they only have a few stacks, remain in the game and work towards each others benefit, if drama prevails in the game between 1st and second fighters, those two scammers can easily make way with the game.

Add one more player by way of a flag to one of these two scammers, or add in any convenient move that favors both of them, then let's see, aren't those two players odds skewed towards winning at least 4th and 3rd?

If so, that means the worst they get is -10 to -100 if they are unlucky. If they do this on a board with others who let this play out time and time again, they have a good racket going.

As far as alts, today I counted just about everyone having 4+ alts or new alts to add to their list this month.

Glad you all can tell them apart. You would have to be playing a long time to figure this all out, and not many are invested into the drama that much.

Glad people are looking into this, and hoping the mods can try to act on any nefarious behavior.

basically you can cheat on all the boards.

If you look at various times of the evening or daytime, the tournaments and 500, 2000 and 5k boards have at least 2 players who are in it for each other.

I only say this to disagree that cheating is only a 100 board thing. It is worst and more costly to regular non-alt players when it is 500+ boards.

So oiler,

I left my thought open and knew with 100% certainty that if you were to respond to the question, that you would respond the way that you did.

Well of course the more skilled players will beat a noob. PLEASE....

But I thought maybe by me saying that the question was "rhetorical" that you may have provided a more mature take on the dynamics of the top tier.

But anyway...

If I had a dime for every time that a noob was squeezed out of a solid 2-3 position on the higher tables for no other reason than "not being in the club", I would have an extra $20,000 on hand right now. I don't have to speculate. I don't have to guess. I have witnessed it and experienced it hundreds of times.

You can't deny human nature. Friends help friends. So stop trying to deny favoritism. It's life and don't apologize for it.

Aside from all that, I found it interesting that you referred to the lower tables as the "wild west". In a top tier players eyes, the lower tables are a nightmare, because they can't rely on friends to help them out before they reach 2,000 points. So while it can be tough navigating the "wild west", maybe it's the adventure that makes it fun. In other words, playing with strategy or "game skill" on the lower tables is more challenging than relying on "friendships and expectations" on the higher tables.

This month was my first serious month back in a long time. I left the game a while ago because I was bored out of my mind with the status quo, pecking order, bullshit up top. Games were so boring at times. When game skill is replaced by politics, games become boring to me.

But I realize that some people love politics. And I encourage those who succeed at manipulating at the top tier to seek a career in politics. You will make a lot more $ and can contribute to society at the same time.

Shit did I ramble here...

i dont like the sound of chase cabal, i need a catchier name

someone told me that fonias is gurgi

makes sense because fonias always posts after gurgi in threads...

It was really obvious to some of us which games ONIX was chase and which were veta. Some people got annoyed by this and took him down.

Leek is a tool, anyone that didn't know this really should pull their head out of their ass.

Also, serious question: What the fuck chemicals does DDDY ingest on a regular basis. For real the shit you post is fucking surreal.

DDDY I could make an alt right now and not get squeezed out of anything in any of the top tables. Novice players don't fuck up great starts because there's a conspiracy against them, they lose because they are NOVICES. How much more clear can I make that. Good players can smell a shitty player a mile away. Haven't you ever watched a 2000 or 5000 game where nobody knew who an alt was and that alt still did well? The most recent example is Jack the Ripper, nobody knew who he was except Olk and Fatman. And they didn't play in all the games JTR played, so that right there is proof that a random person can do well in high tables with necessarily being familiar with anyone.