the reason most mods (and i would venture most regular players) are against the idea of secret alts.... well lets go over the reasons theyve been used in the past. and ill include rough guesstimates on percentages of occurrence.

5% regular players sometimes create secret alts to prove to themselves that they can succeed at kdice (get a trophy or whatever) WITHOUT the name recognition. this sounds like what jurgen referred to earlier. i did for three months after i won my gold, with psalm73.26. after 3 months of desperately hiding my identity (im proud that i convinced everyone i wasnt an alt, but there were some suspicions here and there), by 1) typing with punctuation and proper capitalization, 2) accusing top table players of PGA constantly and getting destroyed like a noob on top tables because of this (thrax HATED me and pged me for a couple weeks cus of my feigned ignorance, it was fun), and 3) not doing my regular chatbox smear campaigns... well it worked, i got my 59th trophy. and i hated it, the amount of effort i had to go through to build up a new personality and new credit with all the regulars was exhausting, and it sucked not being able to be like, 'sup thrax, this is monte'. meh, but i'll admit this 5% doesnt do any harm to the community.

40% to pga/pge at end of month. this has definitely happened before. flagfest in june 2007 was partially possible because a couple of us had alts that were 2k+ elo, and we gave those accts out so that we had critical mass to flagfest. i also remember one of the months that jesse won, on the last day, when he had secured a decent lead, he REFUSED to play as his main against whomever was challenging him (someone refresh my memory who that was?), and instead he would sit as Venezuela (his alt, although not toooo secret), and PGE whomever was in 2nd. bitchy thing to do, but effective: he won. i also want to say DLK built up a crew of alts to do this, and im ignorant of all the shit that zoid pulled, but i would guess he did this too.

55% to fuck shit up for fun. most of the time, these secret alts are created by the otf crew or whatever, and not for intentionally malicious reasons. they just want to fuck around. thrax can remind you of the llllllll month, where several people created those accts, and no one was allowed to out their identity. no one was supposed to pga, or do anything bad like that. but it was decided afterwards (by Ryan? i forget) that fucking around as secret llllllll accts was wrong and should never happen again. why? because inside jokes dont add to the game. if anything they take away from it.


now i didnt even get into nonsecret alts. maybe those are okay. fuck me, ive got one for myself. but i have a good reason, imho. my main got cursed with bad luck, so i started using my old alt. and its obv not a secret alt. there are SOME decent reasons to use open alts i think. but if the powers that be determine that only one acct per IP should be used, i understand the reasoning behind that. but would struggle to agree to it unless other major methods on this site were to be changed.

CLIFF NOTES:
tl;dr

"If the site were run properly, only one account per IP address would be allowed anyways."

if that happens i'm gonna take a course in proxying..

anybody has some usefull links ??

@monte, nothing wrong with pge.

and how did you make up those %'s?

Monte, TL... but still read. I'm a loser

of all the things you mention only the pga part is bad/against the rules..
and that has little to do with alts.

didn't fiero post this same shit?

Alts are also useful for... creating alts to conduct a conversation in the chat while loading freerolls.

nodice's good twin?
http://kdice.com/profile/45022419

Section II: Nonsecret Alts

1) already covers it partially but I would add folowwing reasons:

1b) or 6) you have a special goal for your main (high ppg; blue/white in fewest possible games; no tourneys; only tourneys, etc ...) so you use an alt to play despite of your main's restrictions

7) the mars/murti approach: wanting 2 blues, blue + white, etc

"One thing that bothers me about the current system, that I, along with other regular 2k/5kers can help to fix, is the OTF relationships at the higher tables."
Things are a little different because I have a vagina (so people tend to be a little nicer to me), but I won my first 2k before I was really friends with most of the higher placed players and then took 2nd at the next one... I remember thinking it was awesome that I beat sam on my first 2k :P but he beat me the next game. so I suppose it evened out. But about the rest of what gb said- having not played 2k/5k much (I think I've literally played one 5k ever) but having watched plenty, I'm pretty sure OTF behaviour isn't as big a problem as noobs being noobs. Those who play upper tables a lot know how others who play upper tables a lot will behave, and have no idea what the newer players to 2k will do. It's the same problem with playing 0s... not everyone playing knows real strategy so people make moves that make no sense whatsoever. Everyone who plays upper tables now was new at them at one point. IMO people who want to play 2k should play, and if they lose, they should play again until they get better. People will start seeing their name more and they won't be so noob anymore.

ANYWAY. One account per person makes sense but there are the problems about what if I want to play and no one is around to play a 2k but I can't sit a lower table- but unrated tables would solve that. It doesn't have to be 'one account per IP' because siblings/roommates/classmates/coworkers etc play from the same IPs. Just ban any alts. It's more work for the mods, I guess, but that's the only way to do it.