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The full monte and Shevar lead in mid-August TAZD.
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skrumgaer wrote
at 11:18 AM, Monday August 16, 2010 EDT
The TAZD is explained on my Wall. At least 35 regular games played in the month is required to qualify for the TAZD.
TAZD Player 11560 the full monte 10223 Shevar 8869 Fatman_x 8367 Optical 8258 segamatic 8095 Gauntlet15 8069 kostur 7692 ourbee1985 7442 kolof 7435 nexon 7339 Mitsi the cat 7251 One Cup 7210 fgfx 6939 BAMMBI 6916 Panpil 6812 cool g 6799 espyy 6634 Gurgi 6467 leeeroy jenkins 6451 DoubleDogDareYa 6392 Rowdyazell 6341 look-ic 6312 skylancer 6209 PeaceDog 6148 Mustang 6087 rocka09 6053 Noob Slayer 6042 tommy walker 6012 kdiceplaya! 5945 Solimyr 5776 Straffestof 5683 .3rdbase. 5539 stinkydude 5441 Vermont 5383 Zosod 5327 HadjiMurad 5246 Jily 5214 jokerswild91 5198 GreekScrbbles 5156 pizza_the_hutt 5152 Drucifer85 5035 avifer 5030 ffbsensei 4985 barmat 4867 Loobee 4863 crystal4444 4838 Dex Dexter 4834 Fonias 4632 AlexBallDrop 4606 Sensei_Mata 4604 Donald Krunk 4547 novajlija 4513 Redge100 4471 70PriestJubie 4447 EddyB 4412 Dauphin 4387 t1n 4384 stakaboo 4382 zaxxon 4292 StopHammerTime 4219 orland 4120 kalande 4090 greekboi 4074 XzibitX 4069 rmc 4043 ManOMan 4034 Jitterbug 4033 droppinSCIENCE 3947 noamlang1 3935 Lukazz 3782 aismo 3724 TheONLYprophet 3721 ziada 3573 Az_Balu 3562 phuze 3471 pacode 3369 Kdice_CPR 3368 ModHat_Sam 3244 REMCO 3232 EInegro 3100 CaptainFantastic 3058 crabface 3026 demos70 2908 MadHat_Sam 2906 NO_CHAT 2603 jurgen 2582 DJohnson 2402 vashthestabde 2192 Grisu 1964 THRILLHO 1768 CriticalDog |
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skrumgaer wrote
at 3:56 PM, Monday August 16, 2010 EDT monte:
The TAZD is a two-tailed test. It is possible to low-ball the TAZD. If enough people are interested, I can split the standings and have regular and low-ball divisions. |
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 4:07 PM, Monday August 16, 2010 EDT I know this is flawed because I consistently do poorly in this. ;-)
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skrumgaer wrote
at 4:13 PM, Monday August 16, 2010 EDT For your information, here are the TAZD's of the bottom 100, with the usual condition that there have to be at least 35 games. None of these appear to be lowballing the TAZD, so these are a measure of negative skill. The higher the TAZD, the more negative the skill.
TAZD Player 3393 zhaoyun 2434 Bodon Wilson 2303 bigfoot1111 2208 mattz1 2074 dozeq 1855 Doro Neumann 1787 Roxas74 1489 Wolf1 1448 Flonko 1405 Lean Dos Santos 1354 benndog 1107 SprintTx 1083 Talentrei x3 1005 itzikito 844 borknid 722 AndyLT |
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Vermont wrote
at 4:15 PM, Monday August 16, 2010 EDT Vermont:
If variation from the norm is not accounted for by skill, what accounts for it? Monte states is well. For some reason you assume that all variation from the norm is positive, while I believe almost everyone else agrees that the direction of the variation is a crucial factor, particularly for first place. To answer your question more directly, variation from the norm can also be due to _lack of_ skill. |
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superxchloe wrote
at 4:17 PM, Monday August 16, 2010 EDT There's no such thing as negative skill. There is only skill, and lack of skill.
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Vermont wrote
at 4:18 PM, Monday August 16, 2010 EDT Monte states iT well. I used my secret mod edit button to spell that wrong on purpose, actually.
Can we do a TAZD on the kdice forum, using any other internet forum as the zero datum? I bet it gets a really high score! |
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skrumgaer wrote
at 4:54 PM, Monday August 16, 2010 EDT There is such as thing as negative skill. Negative skill is putting in a worse performance than someone who is acting randomly.
Selecting ten stocks that earn more than ten stocks resulting from ten darts thrown at the stock quotes page is positive skill. Selecting ten stocks that earn less than stocks resulting from ten darts thrown at the stock quotes page is negative skill. |
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Vermont wrote
at 4:56 PM, Monday August 16, 2010 EDT I think this is more of a semantics discussion. There can be negative skill in a given context, such as the one skrum mentions, but I can understand philosophically the point chloe makes.
Everyone is right! We all win! Everyone gets a trophy! |
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superxchloe wrote
at 5:24 PM, Monday August 16, 2010 EDT Sorry, I should have said "There is no such thing as negative skill in kdice."
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skrumgaer wrote
at 5:53 PM, Monday August 16, 2010 EDT I can understand philosphically the point chloes makes, too, even though she is wrong.
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