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EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THIS!!! MODS/PLAYERS!
VaScHa9276 wrote
at 9:42 AM, Monday March 8, 2010 EST
Okay, so I wanted to basically write this in hopes the right people would read it, take it serious and maybe do something about the issues.

The problem with this game is the design.. it doesnt know if its a "social networking site" or a "gaming site". For example, the so called "top" players will tell you a key to success is the chat box. Being talkative and making "friends" is a must to be top 100 in the month and that seems wrong on so many levels.

Not only that, but it leads to PGAs and makes new players feel alienated by these so called "virtual friends". People stop playing this game because of the politics that go along with it and the fact it is nearly impossible to crack the top 100 unless you have a teammate. That shouldn't be the case in what is supposed to be a 1 man for themselves game.

The chatbox also leads to "vflags", which have tons and tons of issues. From people abusing vflagging, to backstabbing after being left alone. Even the person who accepts or denies the vflag is in trouble many times because some people view this as a "truce/alliance".

In short, the designers of this game need to figure out if they want to run a "game" site or a "social networking" site. If they choose the ladder, fine.. myself along with MANY MANY people will quit for good. Im here to play a game and win if possible, not to make "cyber friends" or "talk my way to 1st/2nd place". If I want to chat, Ill log onto MSN or AIM, join a chat room or whatever.. but the mix of both gaming and chat doesnt mix, it just creates cheating and problems.

I doubt this post will change anything, but I had to say something because after giving up KDice for a while and recently coming back to see if things changed I have found its only gotten worse, and the few names I used to recognize and respect for playing the game and not playing the chatbox are now gone and been gone for months.

This is a dying site, and its a shame because in principal you had such a great idea/game in mind. But the players were allowed to ruin it because not enough policing when the chat box was allowed.

Get rid of the chat box, or KDice will be gone in the very near future...I guarantee.

Don't believe me? Ask a mod.. or go check a website that will tell you how much traffic this site gets.. compare now to just a year ago.. or a year ago to 2 years ago... it's been a steady decline and is only getting worse. Soon the sponsors go, than the site goes..

..Ill be disappointed if it happens, but won't be that upset because they allowed it to happen themselves without trying to fix the issue.

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mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 4:08 PM, Tuesday March 9, 2010 EST
@VaScHa9276
you said
"...obviously, the majority of the "top" players dont feel this way because they are great at kissing @ss but bad at playing the game by themselves. "

and obv you did not even try to understand what I wrote in my last post.

the point is that knowing how people around you will react to your move IS a real skill that sepparate the good from the bad.

now the really good will be able to manipulate the people around them to react to their moves in a certain way.

I could be enterpated as a "top player", and for me I get the same kinds of games when I play at 100 tables, with unknowns, as I get on th 2K table. the main difference for me is that that manipulative shit can often be more difficult to pull off on 2K than on 100 tables.

It is not about making viritual friends or teamig with people you know. it IS all about being better at making the other players do what you want than the other players.

I had a fairly epic chatwar with Monte on the final table of a 100 daily about 2 months ago. In this chatwar, I tried my best to make the other players attak Monte, and at least not attack me, monte tried his best to do the opposite. and Monte was my only "Friend" on that table.

this chatting is not about making friends, I got more than enough about that in RL, it is all about making people attack some other guy than you.

often someting as simle as "teal don't attack me" is enough

please read this, and show that you are not here to start a flamewar to make yourself feel better.
Zergme wrote
at 5:37 PM, Tuesday March 9, 2010 EST
@ shevar

Kdice isn't diplomacy, its just old friends help old friends. this might not be that obvious to you because a lot of people know you. I would enjoy this game more if the chat was disabled and everyone would play anonymous

I agree that this game is broken, the amount of players isnt growing. in fact its shrinking.

Tourny's are more broken then ever and this game actually gotten to a point where there is less skill involved then in dicewars.

PGA is the standard now. people don't even deny that they do it anymore. its just a part of the game.

Kdice is broken.
derivative wrote
at 8:10 PM, Tuesday March 9, 2010 EST
someone make a new thread to discuss this very interesting topic please.
Gurgi wrote
at 7:39 PM, Wednesday March 10, 2010 EST
Okay, so I wanted to basically


thats about as far as i went
itslikeisaid wrote
at 1:36 AM, Thursday March 11, 2010 EST
Why not make it an option - simply add some tables that do not have chat.

I enjoy the social aspect, but often enough I would rather just play the game and choose not to log in because it involves so much more than that.
Willy Jr. wrote
at 3:00 AM, Thursday March 11, 2010 EST
ok if johnson213 was here he would argue there is no issue with the style of play...ppl just need to accept that they are not always going to win and stop being sore losers. when you realize that this game is more than a war game...you'll understand it better. i don't believe in proxying, pinging, and all that other stuff...but i think that every thing else balances itself out.
Pot of Gold wrote
at 3:17 AM, Thursday March 11, 2010 EST
Willy you are a shared acc. I saw that acc claiming to BE johnston213 yesterday.

Pla quit the game.
Pot of Gold wrote
at 3:18 AM, Thursday March 11, 2010 EST
pla = plz T_T
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