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EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THIS!!! MODS/PLAYERS!
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VaScHa9276 wrote
at 9:42 AM, Monday March 8, 2010 EST
Okay, so I wanted to basically write this in hopes the right people would read it, take it serious and maybe do something about the issues.
The problem with this game is the design.. it doesnt know if its a "social networking site" or a "gaming site". For example, the so called "top" players will tell you a key to success is the chat box. Being talkative and making "friends" is a must to be top 100 in the month and that seems wrong on so many levels. Not only that, but it leads to PGAs and makes new players feel alienated by these so called "virtual friends". People stop playing this game because of the politics that go along with it and the fact it is nearly impossible to crack the top 100 unless you have a teammate. That shouldn't be the case in what is supposed to be a 1 man for themselves game. The chatbox also leads to "vflags", which have tons and tons of issues. From people abusing vflagging, to backstabbing after being left alone. Even the person who accepts or denies the vflag is in trouble many times because some people view this as a "truce/alliance". In short, the designers of this game need to figure out if they want to run a "game" site or a "social networking" site. If they choose the ladder, fine.. myself along with MANY MANY people will quit for good. Im here to play a game and win if possible, not to make "cyber friends" or "talk my way to 1st/2nd place". If I want to chat, Ill log onto MSN or AIM, join a chat room or whatever.. but the mix of both gaming and chat doesnt mix, it just creates cheating and problems. I doubt this post will change anything, but I had to say something because after giving up KDice for a while and recently coming back to see if things changed I have found its only gotten worse, and the few names I used to recognize and respect for playing the game and not playing the chatbox are now gone and been gone for months. This is a dying site, and its a shame because in principal you had such a great idea/game in mind. But the players were allowed to ruin it because not enough policing when the chat box was allowed. Get rid of the chat box, or KDice will be gone in the very near future...I guarantee. Don't believe me? Ask a mod.. or go check a website that will tell you how much traffic this site gets.. compare now to just a year ago.. or a year ago to 2 years ago... it's been a steady decline and is only getting worse. Soon the sponsors go, than the site goes.. ..Ill be disappointed if it happens, but won't be that upset because they allowed it to happen themselves without trying to fix the issue. |
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VaScHa9276 wrote
at 3:09 PM, Monday March 8, 2010 EST Sorry I offended all you nerds with all your "virtual friends". Ill just leave the site, like MOST others.
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superxchloe wrote
at 3:13 PM, Monday March 8, 2010 EST good riddance. enjoy playing dicewars.
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the full monte wrote
at 3:15 PM, Monday March 8, 2010 EST i hate people who make broad accusations based on poor assumptions, then refuse to listen to anyone that doesnt praise them. makes for the lamest discussions ever.
"I HATE KDICE BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH ME IN THE FORUMS ARE MORONS!!!" "WTF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME? WELL YOURE A MORON!" |
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nunes wrote
at 4:08 PM, Monday March 8, 2010 EST Trolls get a lot of attention on this forum. This should be over when he first unsolicitedly announced how awesome his private life his compared to our miserable ones.
The only troll worth investing into is GB because he's a good talented entertainer. Those fucktards aren't even amusing. |
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bjosarn wrote
at 4:28 PM, Monday March 8, 2010 EST Me, who actually is a new player on the site, can actually see a point in what OP is saying.
When I try out new games I often sit back and just studies for a while, and I do the same thing here. I try to go to tables and just watch the games. See how different players play in different sittuations. From what I've learned is that in the higher tables you go to, the more brown nosing and sometimes "strange" moves. These "strange" moves does come again and again when the same (2+) players is in the same round. Almost as there is "hidden pacts". And maybe the chatbox is the cause. I don't know if there is a solution to this "problem", or if it's even look at as a problem. But one thing is for sure, it will not be easy to fight you're way into a room full of 50 friends. |
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bjosarn wrote
at 4:31 PM, Monday March 8, 2010 EST ...and don't get me wrong.
I'm not sure if it makes the game better or worse. But I may say, that I both like the game and the chatbox! |
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superxchloe wrote
at 4:48 PM, Monday March 8, 2010 EST bjosam, 'strange' moves can also be attributed to knowing other players playing styles. certain people (ahem leek) always truce their neighbour. moving away from a certain player instead of into them, depending on who it is, can reward you later on in the game.
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Ph- wrote
at 4:50 PM, Monday March 8, 2010 EST All you need to make it on the 2k tables is to have a personality.
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mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 1:26 AM, Tuesday March 9, 2010 EST @bjosarn
to evaluate how good any move you do, ofcourse you have to look at the effects of that move. there are usually about 2-4 players that will have thoughts on your move. So HOW THEY ENTERPATES THE MOVE IS OFTEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT THE MOVE DOES FOR YOU. Since any stack move you do is usually doing; - attacking at least one player - often is moving something in direction of another player - while you are moving away from 1-2 other player Any stack you don't move can; - be ruining another players connect - stopping another player from expanding (even if he was planning on expanding away from you so in the first few turns, top players try to treat the players in 1 of 3 ways: 1. the nice move this is the move that does no harm to that player, and alowes him to connect, without destroying you. This move is a risky move, esspecially if you do not know if the player will recognize the move. 2. the defensive move just a simple connect, keeping your stacks as tall as possible, this is done if there is too many people situated around you, or you do not trust the players around you to play nice. 3. the aggressive move if you are going to damage a player, better make sure you do the job properly. make sure he/she does not have a counterattack, this move is usually combined with doing 'nice moves' to the other players. there is prolly more kinds of moves that top players does, but I cannot think of all now. but main point is, about 50 % of the evaluation of a move is "how will other players react?" |
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VaScHa9276 wrote
at 12:39 PM, Tuesday March 9, 2010 EST Thank you Bjo, this was basically my point.
As you can see, your not going to get much support and eventually will start being called names or told to play "dicewars" as if that is an insult. Like many things in life, this game has turned into a "friends only" thing, and the whole point of my post was to basically point this out. Its frustrating to be a new player/or old player who is coming back after a long absense to get "teamed up" on by these so called "virtual friends". I dont think its right that because I don't feel like chatting that Im going to never be able to have a fair shot to win. It shouldnt be based on how you kiss @ss but how well you play the game... ...obviously, the majority of the "top" players dont feel this way because they are great at kissing @ss but bad at playing the game by themselves. Now Ill sit back and wait to be flamed and called a troll when Ive been a member of the site longer then they have haha. |
