Umm why does anyone think I am pissed?

I stated my basic view and don't really have any more to add, since the premsie of my arguement is that talking about politics on the internet is a exercise in futility.

WOAH WOAH calm down man just take a deep breath. Honestly, you need to learn to control yourself.

you mean the black guy was elected?!?!

fuck i need to start paying attention to current events -

All I wanna know is:

Does anybody respect the constitution anymore? Regardless of whether you're a D or R. Both parties seem to have strode away from the document as if it's outdated or poorly designed. I wonder how much better the world would be if state/local governments actually wielded power and we didn't have a sprawling bureaucracy controlling almost everything.

Keep in mind what I'm saying is coming from a libertarian point of view. I'm not anarchistic, I just think our federal government is incredibly inefficient and has succeeded in making fools of millions of Americans. I think that the major emphasis so many average Americans place on the power of the president is horribly misguided (evidence: War Dog). The truth is, people, the president can ask for legislation, but it's the 535 members of Congress who write it and pin him into signing it into law.

Iunno, this is somewhat random ramblings, but I'm very concerned as to where our nation is going long-term. I couldn't care less about spending or whatever in the short term. I do have a problem with the mentality of congressmen feasting on HUGE bills to get money for their districts or whatever because they say it would be "wasted anyway." Why the hell are we electing people who want to spend that money then? We don't need stupid pet projects for our districts. We need less money spent by the federal government. Period. It's getting unsafe for the liberties of your average American.

Of course, this is biased and I'm appreciative of other arguments (I've enjoyed this thread), but I would like to also point out that I have basically zero compassion for the "common man" who is being "stolen from" by the corporation heads. I'm of the persuasion that truly smart people know how to succeed and those that can't handle it don't deserve help for not being able to succeed. However, those "truly smart" people are a quaint minority in these parts compared to those who would rather get money from their government, instead. It makes no sense. Give the gov't X dollars to get X/2 back when they spend half of it on maintaining the bureaucracy. Why not keep X dollars and if that's not enough, look for solutions on your own?

Oh well, I'm basically a compassionless person anyway. I enjoy being able to be the minority who sits back and watches the quibbles of the two major parties though. :)

GEEEE thanks bull for mentioning me....

glad to see your not bi est, and wtf does my age have to do with politics, no need to be jealous of me being like times younger than you and better at a subject, just go find something in your court. -.- OK with that of my shoulders i would like to say something that was never answered.

were is all this money going too, and who's going to pay it off?

lastly (something i have not mentioned) what about border patrol. i have a pretty little nick name at school now "racist" because i support border control and the fence along the Rio Grande. then they throw at me, what if they put a border on the Canadian American border? all i answered was "ok, because my parents actually came here with filed paper works and LEGALLY , they would have had no problem otherwise"

when i said what if they put a "border" on the Canadian American border, i meant to say "fence"

love liberals who can't spell a presidents name correctly even with a spell check

Check this out Thraxle this explains Why Obama is right and Rush is wrong!:


did you mean "rush limba" or "bush"?

kinda confused

oh yea, and this shit about left's wanting to stop republican talk show. IT PISSES ME OFF, THAT'S INFRINGING ON OUR CONSTITUTION FIRST AMENDMENT, FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

"Storm, he never said the data was invalid. All he said was that CNN would cover it and FOX wouldn't. Fox wouldn't even mention food stamps if they use the study, they would say something like tax cuts for small business stimulates the economy by X dollars, even though something that they wouldn't report, but CNN would, was shown to be more stimulating by the study."

Then show me the other data.

"Ok, Thraxle here is what you do.save your own ass. Put as much money as you possibly can into guns and gold."
this is a bad idea because if the economy recovers you are screwed. Gold is at an all time high right now and its value will not increase much more. It will however drop about 30-40% if our economy recovers. buy Platinum or rhodium.
Secondly im a very fiscally conservative person, but im willing to give obama a chance. this thread is premature in my pinion by about a year. He has been president for less then 2 months you need to give him a little more time to get something accomplished.
also i agree with you thrax on the food stamps. Although it is 20 billion dollars that you can be sue about 99% of will be spent, the food industry is not at all hurting (except dairy products). that 20 billion would be much better suited in say construction or banking or fabrication or.......
Also something that nobody has gone into depth on yet suprisingly is the energy policy. Lets face it from a strictly economic stand point the only viable options are king coal and nuclear. solar and wind are just too inefficient at the moment and biofuels will never go anywhere. Now the obvious problem with coal is air pollution, so if one wanted coal to remain king in the US then one would want to put considerable effort into "clean" coal. this will take much time and most likely vastly increase the cost of coal power. (reforms in both mining and the actual plants would most assuredly be very costly)
This leaves us with nuclear power as the only viable option for clean and cheap energy (with current technology). Unfortunately nuclear power has this bad stigma to it. But if the general populace where more educated this wouldnt be a problem either.
any way those are my thoughts, if you guys want me to elaborate more on the nuclear power let me know i am very well versed in the subject.
good thread thrax ive enjoyed it