CK

I really see your point. You are playing for 1st in the tourney, not in that particular game, so it makes sense to attack the player in 2nd.

When a player flags, all that really happens is that he no longer can get a higher position than what he flags for (except special cases of course). After a player flags, people should adjust their strategies accordingly. Most often it makes sense to leave a flagged player alone, in some cases it doesn't, like yours.

I too wish people would treat flags as what they are, and nothing more. And stop whining! :-D

That being said, you should know that most people have a different understanding of flags, and it is no surprise that people react against what you did. That's just how the KDice culture is these days... :-|

gaaru you dont understand because you didnt witness the game, read the other posts before commenting instead of just the first one

washing_machine you dont understand because you didnt witness me reading all the posts.

this isn't the olympics... get a life you pathetic dweeb.

care so much? make your own game.

i think what people need to realize first is that CK and i are NOT offended because we were banned from gaining some points. we are NOT offended because we were banned from getting a nice 1st place in a tourney that we can brag about. we ARE offended because the way in which we were banned makes us look like the scum of the earth. and lots of people who werent involved in the games that led to the bannings are immediately concluding that 'i should never sit with these guys because they have no integrity.'

when someone takes points away from me, thats not a big deal. when someone attacks my integrity publicly and inexplicably, and then a whole mob starts to form... well, i get worked up when someone else tries to manipulate a community to believe i have no integrity. i wont go down quietly if my integrity is at stake.

You disrespected a flag so basically you need to just STFU and accept the consequences.

CK and monte, this is going on your permanent record. You'll never work in this town again.

I understand monte... it's not the points, but the slap in the face.

Well... to be honest... I think that is Ryan's best weapon for cleaning this stuff up.

There are some that value points where their loss is valuable, but I think he is counting on players with 'reputations to uphold' to get the message that if you are doing shady stuff, you are going to be exposed. And if you are a good clean player that normally plays above-board, you are going to have to come to the pulpit to explain your action to your peers.

Or... just be sure you are playing fair and avoid doing anything that is shady... even in the gray area. I would put this play by CK in that gray area... she wasn't trying to 'cheat', but she did (basically) lie to cod and gain some sort of advantage from it.

I think it is pretty obvious what initiated the ban. You attacked a FLAGGED PERSON!!!! This is courtesy 101 CK. A white flag means surrender, and at that point you have two choices, to respect a person's flag or to disrespect a persons flag. One shows integrity and honor, another shows zero class, regardless of what your intentions are. It seems arrogant to me that you fully admit that cod4 flagged, then later you attack him, as if that is an OK act.

jaquibosox, it seems fairly arrogant that you talk as if you know the game better than you really do.

A flag is not a guarantee of inaction - by either sides of the flag. (Person flagging and person being flagged to)

Example, despite a person flagging for 2nd, they could still get 1st place, if they killed the first place person. This little fact seems to go largely ignored, but it does happen. I've had it happen many times to myself.