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How to act when you first sit at high tables
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montecarlo wrote
at 7:34 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST
this is in response to olk's reply in ryan's thread about pga = cheating. i didnt want to sidetrack that thread, but i did want to reply to olk's comment:
"The most part of the top players are friendly with a lots of other top players and find them randomly at tables. They have tendency to attack the new coming they don't know. For me it is as a PGA..." --olk i totally agree with you on this point. this is the way it has always been. back in january when i first made an appearance on the top tables (2000s i think), everyone knew that the elitist bastards who were 2000 regulars would pwn your ass immediately and shoot you back down to the 1800 tables. in light of this, i decided to be nice when i first made it up there. i took my 5th like a man, and went back to 1800. i had a decent shot at 3rd, maybe 2nd, but then they all realized that i was a 2000 noob and they wanted to reward each other. i understood. and didnt bitch about it. and told them it was cool. and their reaction: they raised their collective eyebrow, and said they would remember my charm. so the next time i played 2000, the same thing happened all over again. the third time, the castle burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. BUT THE FOURTH TIME, i had enough positive memory on the 2000 tables that they let me keep the 2nd place that i earned. and they let me stay in their circle. psychologically, this all makes sense. if you play with the same group of people for hundreds of games, and you respect the way they play and their personality, then you will tend to help them when given the choice of help them or help someone you dont know. so i decided that i needed these 2000 people to get to know me, you know, cus i think im a pretty nice guy. and after 4 games of getting pwnd by them, they decided i was a nice guy, and i had a good personality. now, if you want to make it EXTREMELY hard to stay at the high tables, the ABSOLUTE worst thing you can do is bitch at them when they gang up and hand you a 5th instead of your deserved 2nd/3rd. the other TERRIBLE thing you can do is, while bitching, call them all PGAs. especially in this day and era, where pgas are officially cheaters. based on my experience, on all tables of all levels, whenever i call someone a cheater, they will ALWAYS attack me for several games in a row after that. so, a quick overview. to stay on the high tables: 1) be humble, take your undeserved 5th place like a man, and make a joke about it (people love humor in kdice). 2) never accuse the upper tables of pga as soon as you are sent to a lower table. honestly, i think this is good advice. even from an american! |
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sarahxxx wrote
at 8:18 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST bestestness post ever...makes sense really...
read it and take it in |
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SodaPop wrote
at 8:20 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST this is true... but its not right.
your place in a game should be decided on skill / strategy. not "a good personality" or being "humble" - I wrote a thread about this last month, and just because it works for some people doesnt make it right. |
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Kehoe wrote
at 8:38 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST Soda-Pop - I think you want to go play dicewars. It takes out the human element and bases itself on skill/strategy.
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montecarlo wrote
at 8:43 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST i agree with hoe. skill/strategy includes the social aspect. i am more skillful with people than i am with dice. nothing wrong with that.
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Grunvagr wrote
at 9:03 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST Here's the real answer on how to act when you first sit at the high tables.
Be somebody. Have some damn character. Do you remember buggs bunny or champ bailey? well that depends, did you grow up watching cartoons or do you like football? fact is, they are BOTH "a SOMEBODY" - but buggs has a catchphrase. Why is this convenient? well you dont expect every kdice player to remember a million things about you, but if they remember you they respect that you appreciate the kbeautiful game like they do, at least. After you play hundreds and hundreds (thousands?) of games near , with, around, and vs the same names you inevitably form opinions about people, and friendships. But most importantly you also form playstyles. And just cuz youre a friend of mine doesnt mean i give preferential treatment. Pet totally annihilated a game of mine the other day and I adore the guy - why?? cuz... how do i explain it.. it's like playing tackle football with your friends. Even if they tackle the shit out of you and you didnt expect it, you still respect them for playing with you. dont touch the penguin, obey the rule I am a beast at kdice. mighty mighty monte GO WHALE!! RND SMASH!!! aww.. dont 8v8 me in half...have a HART, woman!! be a personality, be somebody, be memorable, be somebody who plays to win. Then, win or lose, youre a winner inside. (note: that last sentence is crap, you need to actually win or you are in fact, a loser) -gurneygavor |
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montecarlo wrote
at 9:19 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST grun, as always, is correct. case in point is panzer from a few months ago. he made it up to the 2k tables, kept cussing everyone out, yelling pga, named at least two dozen pges (and kept them)... he was friggin hilarious (he also had an in-your-face kind of humor). so he had his own unique personality. and everyone started to like him. if you dont have any personality, i can teach you if you pay me in canadian dollars.
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verisux wrote
at 9:37 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST sounds liek monte is a pga fanboy. I'll kill you first if I ever see you in a game
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verisux wrote
at 9:38 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST oh also..you make the top tables sound so horrid I don't think I'll ever play one
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Grunvagr wrote
at 9:46 AM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST top tables are nice for one reason - this coming from someone who prides himself on how good tactical play can help your luck significantly to win more games than a pure 14% spread across the 7 places
At top tables you rarely see 5v5s and 4v4s in early rounds. And if they are attempted, its usually by players trying to cut a huge empire early, or link a ton of lands (both the only situations I deem the poor chance worthwhile) unless you are rnd and win 4v4s like its an 8v6, lucky bastid... |
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JDizzle787 wrote
at 12:45 PM, Thursday December 6, 2007 EST Well, My input is only from minimal experience, since I did have a brief stint "up there" in April. A lot of players knew who I was most likely from my prolific forum posts. I wasn't afraid, but I was kind of excited and felt "at home" because I always want to be respected for my score as well as my opinions. I compensate for that by being very outspoken in the forum page.
Anywho, the best advice is not to go nuts or act like you did on the lower tables, because it sticks up there. Cussing someone out or accusing them of PGA or other random bullcrap isn't good. However, I'm not a conformist as far as kdice goes. If I see something screwed up/ suspicious, you bet it's going to be on the wall somewhere when it comes to me. But other than my experience you meet a lot of funny and insightful people on the high tables and just be yourself, similar to what grun said. Being quiet won't make the experience worth it. |
