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Dottir takes 2011 yearly TAZD.
Posted By: skrumgaer at 6:09 PM, Wednesday January 4, 2012 EST
To qualify for the yearly TAZD competition, you must have played an average of 60 regular games per month, or to finish, 720 games.
The zero datum used was
07.2, 07.9, 10.2, 14.0, 17.5, 20.3, 22.9.
I have child-proofed the yearly TAZD, but I will not say in what way I have done it. The childproofing did not have to kick in in 2011.
***Special note: Actually the childproofing did kick in for Xar in the November standings, not because of any action of his, but by my compiling his January 2011 seventh place percentage as 14 instead of 14%. That happens if you don't include the final % sign when you capture the data with the mouse. Note that his final percentages added to 129%. Xar's corrected November standings should have been
0865 15% 19% 17% 14% 12% 11% 07% 13457 Xar
Here are the complete final standings:
7167 15% 16% 16% 16% 13% 11% 09% 28193 dottir
1036 24% 18% 20% 13% 09% 08% 06% 27003 grandgnu
5818 19% 13% 11% 11% 15% 14% 14% 21834 dirtyrolls
1648 21% 17% 16% 10% 11% 10% 13% 20963 1st.skyler
1641 21% 18% 12% 10% 09% 12% 16% 20017 kdiceplaya!
1743 20% 17% 13% 13% 13% 11% 10% 19795 Mercantile
0730 21% 21% 15% 13% 10% 10% 06% 18357 Mazaman
2596 17% 16% 16% 12% 11% 12% 13% 18217 Lady Lite
2124 18% 15% 16% 14% 12% 10% 11% 18050 stakaboo
0720 22% 18% 17% 12% 13% 08% 06% 18028 montecarlo
1632 20% 17% 10% 11% 11% 11% 17% 17769 chaiNblade
1217 17% 19% 16% 13% 14% 10% 08% 16780 DrunkDaShiVa
1472 20% 15% 15% 13% 14% 10% 11% 16732 Fonias
0732 15% 20% 20% 18% 12% 08% 04% 16708 SirPepa781
3504 16% 16% 12% 11% 12% 14% 15% 16239 Az_Balu
1497 19% 18% 09% 11% 15% 11% 14% 15976 Gurgi
2463 13% 16% 17% 13% 11% 12% 13% 13905 BAMMBI
1838 17% 15% 14% 16% 12% 12% 11% 13662 ehervey
0865 15% 19% 17% 14% 12% 11% 07% 13457 Xar
1817 18% 11% 09% 08% 08% 13% 30% 13402 THRILLHO
2666 16% 14% 14% 14% 13% 12% 13% 13159 Randomperfection
1645 18% 14% 15% 13% 13% 12% 12% 12627 charliedontsurf
0958 22% 12% 12% 13% 14% 14% 11% 12460 caesar-blue
1632 13% 17% 15% 14% 14% 12% 13% 10457 Crazy Smurf
1359 17% 15% 11% 09% 13% 13% 18% 10190 greekboi
1797 14% 16% 14% 12% 14% 14% 14% 09447 nodice4u
1242 16% 16% 13% 13% 13% 14% 13% 09373 TheBetterYodel
1168 11% 14% 15% 19% 19% 13% 05% 08894 skrumgaer
0834 17% 16% 14% 08% 11% 14% 17% 08726 toad92
0740 15% 16% 13% 17% 16% 11% 09% 08624 Kibble95
1099 13% 16% 14% 12% 11% 15% 14% 07297 pooch723
0983 16% 13% 13% 12% 10% 14% 20% 06319 wrestlerchance
Here are the end of November standings:
0964 24% 18% 20% 12% 09% 08% 06% 26184 grandgnu
6652 14% 16% 16% 16% 13% 12% 10% 25137 dottir
5510 19% 13% 11% 11% 15% 14% 14% 21349 dirtyrolls
1648 21% 17% 16% 10% 11% 10% 13% 20963 1st.skyler
1663 20% 18% 12% 13% 13% 11% 09% 20069 Mercantile
1637 21% 18% 12% 10% 09% 12% 15% 20046 kdiceplaya!
1632 20% 17% 10% 11% 11% 11% 17% 17769 chaiNblade
0692 21% 21% 15% 13% 10% 11% 06% 17549 Mazaman
2424 17% 16% 15% 12% 11% 12% 13% 16899 Lady Lite
0678 21% 18% 17% 12% 13% 08% 06% 16846 montecarlo
1217 17% 19% 16% 13% 14% 10% 08% 16780 DrunkDaShiVa
1454 20% 15% 15% 13% 14% 10% 11% 16663 Fonias
0723 15% 20% 20% 18% 12% 08% 04% 16340 SirPepa781
1449 19% 18% 10% 11% 15% 10% 13% 16055 Gurgi
3232 16% 16% 13% 11% 12% 14% 15% 15463 Az_Balu
1557 17% 15% 17% 14% 12% 10% 11% 15081 stakaboo
2265 13% 16% 17% 12% 12% 12% 14% 13173 BAMMBI
2546 16% 14% 14% 14% 14% 12% 13% 12655 Randomperfection
1641 18% 14% 15% 13% 13% 12% 12% 12628 charliedontsurf
1727 16% 15% 14% 16% 12% 12% 11% 12468 ehervey
0932 22% 12% 12% 13% 14% 14% 11% 12295 caesar-blue
1551 18% 11% 09% 07% 08% 13% 30% 12225 THRILLHO
0865 15% 19% 17% 14% 12% 11% 41% 11919 Xar
1277 18% 16% 11% 09% 13% 13% 17% 10662 greekboi
1632 13% 17% 15% 14% 14% 12% 13% 10457 Crazy Smurf
1164 16% 16% 13% 13% 13% 14% 13% 09354 TheBetterYodel
1742 14% 16% 14% 12% 14% 14% 14% 09210 nodice4u
0662 19% 14% 12% 11% 09% 11% 20% 08752 ji-jo
0834 17% 16% 14% 08% 11% 14% 17% 08726 toad92
0731 15% 16% 13% 17% 16% 11% 09% 08544 Kibble95
1122 11% 13% 15% 18% 19% 13% 06% 08457 skrumgaer
0994 13% 16% 14% 12% 11% 16% 15% 06545 pooch723
0972 16% 13% 13% 12% 10% 14% 19% 06352 wrestlerchance
The zero datum used was
07.2, 07.9, 10.2, 14.0, 17.5, 20.3, 22.9.
I have child-proofed the yearly TAZD, but I will not say in what way I have done it. The childproofing did not have to kick in in 2011.
***Special note: Actually the childproofing did kick in for Xar in the November standings, not because of any action of his, but by my compiling his January 2011 seventh place percentage as 14 instead of 14%. That happens if you don't include the final % sign when you capture the data with the mouse. Note that his final percentages added to 129%. Xar's corrected November standings should have been
0865 15% 19% 17% 14% 12% 11% 07% 13457 Xar
Here are the complete final standings:
7167 15% 16% 16% 16% 13% 11% 09% 28193 dottir
1036 24% 18% 20% 13% 09% 08% 06% 27003 grandgnu
5818 19% 13% 11% 11% 15% 14% 14% 21834 dirtyrolls
1648 21% 17% 16% 10% 11% 10% 13% 20963 1st.skyler
1641 21% 18% 12% 10% 09% 12% 16% 20017 kdiceplaya!
1743 20% 17% 13% 13% 13% 11% 10% 19795 Mercantile
0730 21% 21% 15% 13% 10% 10% 06% 18357 Mazaman
2596 17% 16% 16% 12% 11% 12% 13% 18217 Lady Lite
2124 18% 15% 16% 14% 12% 10% 11% 18050 stakaboo
0720 22% 18% 17% 12% 13% 08% 06% 18028 montecarlo
1632 20% 17% 10% 11% 11% 11% 17% 17769 chaiNblade
1217 17% 19% 16% 13% 14% 10% 08% 16780 DrunkDaShiVa
1472 20% 15% 15% 13% 14% 10% 11% 16732 Fonias
0732 15% 20% 20% 18% 12% 08% 04% 16708 SirPepa781
3504 16% 16% 12% 11% 12% 14% 15% 16239 Az_Balu
1497 19% 18% 09% 11% 15% 11% 14% 15976 Gurgi
2463 13% 16% 17% 13% 11% 12% 13% 13905 BAMMBI
1838 17% 15% 14% 16% 12% 12% 11% 13662 ehervey
0865 15% 19% 17% 14% 12% 11% 07% 13457 Xar
1817 18% 11% 09% 08% 08% 13% 30% 13402 THRILLHO
2666 16% 14% 14% 14% 13% 12% 13% 13159 Randomperfection
1645 18% 14% 15% 13% 13% 12% 12% 12627 charliedontsurf
0958 22% 12% 12% 13% 14% 14% 11% 12460 caesar-blue
1632 13% 17% 15% 14% 14% 12% 13% 10457 Crazy Smurf
1359 17% 15% 11% 09% 13% 13% 18% 10190 greekboi
1797 14% 16% 14% 12% 14% 14% 14% 09447 nodice4u
1242 16% 16% 13% 13% 13% 14% 13% 09373 TheBetterYodel
1168 11% 14% 15% 19% 19% 13% 05% 08894 skrumgaer
0834 17% 16% 14% 08% 11% 14% 17% 08726 toad92
0740 15% 16% 13% 17% 16% 11% 09% 08624 Kibble95
1099 13% 16% 14% 12% 11% 15% 14% 07297 pooch723
0983 16% 13% 13% 12% 10% 14% 20% 06319 wrestlerchance
Here are the end of November standings:
0964 24% 18% 20% 12% 09% 08% 06% 26184 grandgnu
6652 14% 16% 16% 16% 13% 12% 10% 25137 dottir
5510 19% 13% 11% 11% 15% 14% 14% 21349 dirtyrolls
1648 21% 17% 16% 10% 11% 10% 13% 20963 1st.skyler
1663 20% 18% 12% 13% 13% 11% 09% 20069 Mercantile
1637 21% 18% 12% 10% 09% 12% 15% 20046 kdiceplaya!
1632 20% 17% 10% 11% 11% 11% 17% 17769 chaiNblade
0692 21% 21% 15% 13% 10% 11% 06% 17549 Mazaman
2424 17% 16% 15% 12% 11% 12% 13% 16899 Lady Lite
0678 21% 18% 17% 12% 13% 08% 06% 16846 montecarlo
1217 17% 19% 16% 13% 14% 10% 08% 16780 DrunkDaShiVa
1454 20% 15% 15% 13% 14% 10% 11% 16663 Fonias
0723 15% 20% 20% 18% 12% 08% 04% 16340 SirPepa781
1449 19% 18% 10% 11% 15% 10% 13% 16055 Gurgi
3232 16% 16% 13% 11% 12% 14% 15% 15463 Az_Balu
1557 17% 15% 17% 14% 12% 10% 11% 15081 stakaboo
2265 13% 16% 17% 12% 12% 12% 14% 13173 BAMMBI
2546 16% 14% 14% 14% 14% 12% 13% 12655 Randomperfection
1641 18% 14% 15% 13% 13% 12% 12% 12628 charliedontsurf
1727 16% 15% 14% 16% 12% 12% 11% 12468 ehervey
0932 22% 12% 12% 13% 14% 14% 11% 12295 caesar-blue
1551 18% 11% 09% 07% 08% 13% 30% 12225 THRILLHO
0865 15% 19% 17% 14% 12% 11% 41% 11919 Xar
1277 18% 16% 11% 09% 13% 13% 17% 10662 greekboi
1632 13% 17% 15% 14% 14% 12% 13% 10457 Crazy Smurf
1164 16% 16% 13% 13% 13% 14% 13% 09354 TheBetterYodel
1742 14% 16% 14% 12% 14% 14% 14% 09210 nodice4u
0662 19% 14% 12% 11% 09% 11% 20% 08752 ji-jo
0834 17% 16% 14% 08% 11% 14% 17% 08726 toad92
0731 15% 16% 13% 17% 16% 11% 09% 08544 Kibble95
1122 11% 13% 15% 18% 19% 13% 06% 08457 skrumgaer
0994 13% 16% 14% 12% 11% 16% 15% 06545 pooch723
0972 16% 13% 13% 12% 10% 14% 19% 06352 wrestlerchance
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montecarlo wrote
at 8:25 AM, Wednesday November 16, 2011 EST i have friends at the top tables, just as you have friends at the 500 tables. once the bell sounds, they are my enemies and i hardplay them all.
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grandgnu wrote
at 8:31 AM, Wednesday November 16, 2011 EST Also, I've made runs into the top 100 and even close to the top 20.
To compete for a top 25 spot generally you're going to need friends. Which, while not outright PGA, does result in implied collusion where favors from one game to another are exchanged if you wish to remain competitive at the top tables. To make a top 10 spot I would imagine requires multis, pga's and/or an enormous devotion to the diplomatic nature of the game that I could care less about. You're facing a lot of the same people over and over, and the use of friendships or strong acquaintanceships comes into play. When I compete at the 500 and below tables, I have no friends, it's me vs 6 other people with no favors being granted. I can't rely on two skilled buddies to help me achieve a top 3 finish, I have to accomplish it myself. That requires reading the board, recognizing which opponents are intelligent enough to grasp my maneuvers and knowing who will attack where so I can manipulate situations in my favor. Also, lying about a v-flag and backstabbing is always a part of my strategy. |
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grandgnu wrote
at 8:33 AM, Wednesday November 16, 2011 EST Monte, if you think I have friends, you are sorely mistaken. In the past, sure, I had plenty.
But for the past year, no way. I'm too ruthless in the way I play. My friends were generally more skilled players, and my goal is to eliminate those threats if they happen to be at my table. |
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Mercantile wrote
at 11:39 PM, Thursday November 17, 2011 EST While the calculation likely has its merits it simply doesn’t align with the point system.
Several factors eschew the reliability of this measurement, and most saliently the people’s whose stats are being utilized do not play according to the TAZD. It’s interesting to see and thanks skrumgaer for taking the time to compile/calculate. Mainly I aim to debunk it as the evaluation of skill for the ego-laden. Ahem. Naturally the person who rises to the top caters to the algorithm. Grandgnu seems to align with this TAZD calculation that pools data from place-finishes exclusively, while points rely upon a domination statistic as well and involve higher stakes at 2k/5k tables. His style deduces a set of rules that grant him a competitive advantage: 1) place trumps domination (N.B., ‘winning’ below references place finishes) 2) avoid stiff competition and more competent players “In the end, whether it's kdice or poker, my goal is to win as much as possible, and that's best achieved in both cases by avoiding the toughest competition.” (grandgnu wrote at 7:00 AM, Thursday November 10, 2011 CST) 3) 500 tables = “PWN n00bs”. If you survey the competition, it can be breezy. “lol gnu, its been long understood and accepted that the best way to succeed in TAZD is to avoid the top tables because thats where the competition is fiercest. the TAZD champ of all time, fiero600, reigned supreme in TAZD because he did just that: avoided the big boys and destroyed the 500 tables, as any halfbrained kdicer can do (see: yourself).” (montecarlo wrote at 4:37 PM, Friday August 26, 2011 CDT) 4) space-out individual games (last 10 games not certain about past, regardless some points still apply) which has several benefits: a) ability to opt onto a table with weaker competition b) enables backstabbing against verbal flags, as he has no immediate history for players to reference and ultimately corroborate against him c) avoid enemies, targeting, and any suspicion of to-be friendly opponents On the last point it would also limit his capacity to form alliances; however, it is hard to deny his accusations and generalizations of PGA’s as hyperbolic and paranoid, and how that conveniently buffers the ‘grandiosity’ grounded in trouncing the inept. It’s a turtle-shell ideology. A paper tiger of skill. You live for TAZD while the so called ‘competition’ plays another game. Perhaps if there weren’t such rampant ego-masturbation and forum trolling that seeks to weed out any valid criticisms of the TAZD I’d say congrats and leave it at that; however, exaggerated feeling and a neatly-trimmed evaluation of greatness highlight a lack of empathy to matter-of-fact points. Accompany that with attention-whoring, and you find narcissism. I poop on your erroneous claims of being the best. |
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grandgnu wrote
at 8:12 AM, Friday November 18, 2011 EST Right, so because I choose to fight solo, and all the "top" (LOL) players form pre-game alliances or use multi-accounting to acheive "greatness", I declare myself the victor.
Enjoy your shallow victories though. Let me know when you can win a match without two other players backing you, kthanxbye |
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superxchloe wrote
at 9:41 PM, Friday November 18, 2011 EST "While the calculation likely has its merits it simply doesn’t align with the point system.
" The idea is that this is a different measure of skill than the one already in place (ie the points system). It's pretty easy to argue that any measure of skill will be flawed- the tazd just measures a different skillset than points do. |
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@Toomyfriends wrote
at 10:52 PM, Thursday November 24, 2011 EST add me to all of your fields.
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skrumgaer wrote
at 3:08 PM, Friday November 25, 2011 EST You need at least 600 games to be added to the field now and at least 720 to finish.
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masticore wrote
at 6:09 AM, Monday November 28, 2011 EST My account counts ^^
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masticore wrote
at 6:10 AM, Monday November 28, 2011 EST Can you use my account? Thanks
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