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Is PGE against the rules?
Louis Cypher wrote
at 4:57 AM, Thursday November 21, 2024 EST
Since the forum is so dead, I thought I start a discussion that might be of interest.

Some facts (to me it is facts):
- We all agree, that PGA (pre game alliance) is against the rules.
- We all know that OTF (old trusted friends) is sometimes hard to distinguish from PGA. However, with the small playerbase this is not an urgent issue.

There are only 2 rules for games.
One of them states:
Game-to-game favors or alliances are not allowed

My point is, that PGE (pre game enemy) is just the same as PGA only with a negative sign. You do "anti-favors" or "negative favors".

I can fully understand the process of getting pissed at players at times - without judging about the anger being justified or not. That doesn't really matter. Once you are angry at someone it seems reasonable to me to seek revenge for the felt injustice or insult. In consequence you do negative favors to that player the next games. This is very similar to giving small advantages to the guy that gave you first.

Both is not exactly within the rules if taken by the letter (can be considered pge/pga), but very human behavior. I think it can be tolerated.

It is different if the pge/pga goes on for weeks or months. This should not be tolerated. It ruins the game and might further decrease the already small player base. Any justified or not anger should be overcome after some time. In the end (I hate to say that) this is a game for virtual points getting reset all the time where you talk to more or less stupid pictures. It is nothing that should affect your life and mental status (hate) for a long time.

What do you think and what would be your suggestion how to react on longterm pga/pge?


Note: I don't feel I am being seriously targeted at the moment. So I do not have a personal aspect in this discussion.

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imanema wrote
at 8:34 PM, Friday November 29, 2024 EST
Everyone hates you and this is understandable. You are a horrible human being.
Louis Cypher wrote
at 5:03 AM, Monday December 2, 2024 EST
Thank you for your innovative and constructive contribution to this discussion.

I figure from your wording that you are in favor of long lasting hatred and pge on this site.
fiero600 wrote
at 9:56 AM, Tuesday December 3, 2024 EST
Disagree, PGE is the only reasonable tool that the community has to protect itself from players who regularly PGA or ruin games by not paying attention.

For instance, the account "Colonia" regularly attacks players several turns after they've flagged to him and sometimes even after he accepted their flag. The usual manner in which this occurs is that he will completely ruin their game, and then just say "sorry not paying attention" or "sorry missed that" ...

It's happened so often that I pge him for 1 tourney each time he does that to me. I think if everyone does this to him, he will start paying attention during the games.

Without PGE, what other tool do I or anyone else have?
Louis Cypher wrote
at 3:34 AM, Wednesday December 4, 2024 EST
Thanks fiero.
I see that I should have been more precise or not write so long....

Read above, I fully agree to a quick revenge and return after a felt missbehavior (like 1 tourney or 3 games or similar). This is like instantly hitting back - very human and fine for me.

What about a several week or month or "lifetime" pge? This is what I consider toxic and ruining the game.

In the specific case you mentioned I doubt you will see any success regarding education of the named player - but I am sure it does help to work of anger. I'd do the same.
Joey44 wrote
at 12:21 PM, Wednesday December 4, 2024 EST
Lets all PGE Colonia?
fiero600 wrote
at 3:45 PM, Thursday December 5, 2024 EST
The biggest evidence that PGE is allowed, is RYAN's AI robot. If you backstab him 1 time, or even if he thinks you did, he will put you on a blacklist and PGE you FOR LIFE.

You NEVER get off the robot's black list. It's a lifetime pge.
Joey44 wrote
at 5:39 PM, Thursday December 5, 2024 EST
piers plowman: flag red
Aleksa_bre: same
Colonia: but hes not
Colonia: dont tell me sth about moral u idiot
Aleksa_bre: colo???
piers plowman: colo i flagged
Aleksa_bre: we both had
Joey44: For instance, the account "Colonia" regularly attacks players several turns after they've flagged to him and sometimes even after he accepted their flag.
piers plowman: just connecting
Colonia: sorry didnt see
Aleksa_bre: cmon man
Joey44: The usual manner in which this occurs is that he will completely ruin their game, and then just say "sorry not paying attention" or "sorry missed that" ...

Textbook
Marius_1987 wrote
at 12:29 AM, Saturday December 7, 2024 EST
People still play this shit?
dr. zoidberg 69 wrote
at 4:23 PM, Sunday December 8, 2024 EST
Ofcourse its not man r you dumb? Im going to pge you just for making this retarded post
Louis Cypher wrote
at 3:54 AM, Monday December 9, 2024 EST
Zoid - you forgot that you admitted we are alts the other post... So, if you pge me you better get help for schizophrenia.
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