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The Proxy Users in 2024
deffonotTimer wrote
at 10:06 AM, Saturday August 3, 2024 EDT
Hey everyone,

I've noticed some cheating going on recently and wanted to bring some attention to it.

Accounts involved:
dr. zoidberg 69 - Main account

Proxies:
Starbies (funnelled acc last month)
PlutoPR
Tongue Punch
dadestroya

There are even more, but these are the most used.

vino_en_carton: Main account and proxy:

la_jarra_loca


here are some replay links (it's just a fraction; there are infinite more)

on zoid:

https://kdice.com/games/96293197
https://kdice.com/games/96312696
https://kdice.com/games/96293278
https://kdice.com/games/96311686
https://kdice.com/games/96293133

https://kdice.com/tournaments/7/stats//45006272

on vino:

https://kdice.com/games/96322780

https://kdice.com/tournaments/6/stats//45006019
https://kdice.com/tournaments/54/stats//45006255
https://kdice.com/tournaments/2/stats//45005972

I also want to raise the question: why is annat, as a gpokr moderator, not only allowing this but even participating in it by sitting at a 5k while knowing that zoid is funneling himself points (and funneling him herself). Similar stuff happens on gpokr, but personally I don't really care about that.

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deffonotTimer wrote
at 7:52 PM, Sunday August 11, 2024 EDT
Louis Cypher wrote
at 8:27 AM, Monday August 12, 2024 EDT
The big problem always is proof. With the very limited playerbase you don't want to lose players by wrong bans, I guess.

We have two players and gold-winners here accusing each other. How should a mod know?

When we had the last big proxy-invasion, things were or seemed much more easys. Those proxies had continuing account numbers and were probably bulk-registered by script or something like that. I guess it is easy to detect and ban that. Actions were taken quite fast then.

Given proxies that were registered over a long time, the account-number doesn't help. If you had access to the IP-adresses that might give an indication if you looked whether accounts used the same IP over some time. However, you'd have to see all IPs used by an account for some months. I don't know if that is possible for mods. And I am not even sure if it would really help.

Other than that, 1 month on the main, permanent on the proxies for the first time and worse for repetitions seems very reasonable to me.
Magic Roundabout wrote
at 4:02 PM, Monday August 12, 2024 EDT
Zoid cheats everytime he plays here. Years ago it was the same nothing new.

Funnels points on gpokr and funnels points on kdice should of got perma banned years ago
Magic Roundabout wrote
at 4:05 PM, Monday August 12, 2024 EDT
And also a 41% win ratio is ridiculous for 78 games. Only have to look at the win % for any other month and see how blatant the cheating is
Louis Cypher wrote
at 3:26 AM, Tuesday August 13, 2024 EDT
The win-percentage is no message. There are higher values (even John Milton is better in the percentage and has less games, 1a2b is better with >200 games).

You can play 78 games on 0 table with the bot and should win around 50%.... If it was only 7 player games, I'd agree, but as long as you can play one on one, 50% is not too surprising, right?

And again - where is the proof. Loads of claims (a billion flies can't be wrong) don't make a story true (see also: The Donald).
Aleksa_bre wrote
at 5:09 AM, Tuesday August 13, 2024 EDT
Nothing interesting in that. Just showed you the moment since you try to blame me...and you repeat same story now for years. You made your own movie and try to sell it like this.
deffonotTimer wrote
at 12:44 PM, Tuesday August 13, 2024 EDT
@Louis

I'd just be repeating myself. I can prove it, and will prove it to mods if necessary. I respect not jumping to conclusions, if you lack the information, but you are ultimately just defending cheaters here. Again, I have called out 15-20 proxy cheaters in recent years, and have never made a false accusation. I explained, why I don't share the proof too.

Anyway, I did make a thread going more in-depth on Aleksa_bre, as he still outright lies about his cheating: https://kdice.com/discussion/topics/45170039
Magic Roundabout wrote
at 5:03 PM, Wednesday August 14, 2024 EDT
Bump. this is 100% happening. literally just happened in several 500 games.
Magic Roundabout wrote
at 5:06 PM, Wednesday August 14, 2024 EDT
you can add created to this accounts that are being used as well
Magic Roundabout wrote
at 5:10 PM, Wednesday August 14, 2024 EDT
https://kdice.com/games/96389605

https://kdice.com/games/96389683

https://kdice.com/games/96389661

Playing with 3 accounts in one game. Only ever chats on one account. It's pretty blatant.
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