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Should people get reported for calling german players "nazis" ?
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BerlinerSportClu wrote
at 11:47 AM, Monday April 18, 2016 EDT
During my time in kdice I met several players that thought its their right to call all germans nazis, or the german language as nazi language..some even didnt wanted to comunicate with me since I'm "nazi"..which is pretty stuped since I'm half turkish, however I want to know ur opinion on whether to ban them or not.
A recent example: Miless0055: no lo hago con nazis |
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Louis Cypher wrote
at 3:36 AM, Friday April 22, 2016 EDT Moving within the same country does not qualify as immigration - at least in my understanding. So you are by no means immigrating anywhere ever. Else I strongly suggest you get treatment considering your extreme racism and hate issues as well as your addictedness to Adolf Hitler (the Austrian, remember?).
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Immigrant wrote
at 7:56 AM, Friday April 22, 2016 EDT > "Moving within the same country does not qualify as immigration"
When did I say that I am / have moved within the same country? Stop talking like you know me lol. > "I strongly suggest you get treatment considering your extreme racism" Being against Sharia law lovers is racism? 91% of Iraqi Citizens are in favour of sharia law as a pew research study found (probably more now that all the Christians have fled / been slaughtered). Sharia law allows for the death penalty for homosexuality and apostasy. So yeah, I'm an extreme racist for not wanting sick fucks in that don't mind people being killed for having a different sexual preference, or leaving a 7th century religion. Never realized being against a religious sect equated to "extreme racism". Might want to check your definitions there bud. > "your addictedness to Adolf Hitler" 37% of you Germans voted for the guy, don't forget that. |
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toms wrote
at 8:48 AM, Friday April 22, 2016 EDT this discussion...lol
@luis: one part i gathered: mozart was certainly not german and i really wonder who spreads that misdirection. either way thats not what this thread is about. as austrian ive been called nazi quite a lot of times. tbh i do feel offended since im anything but a nazi or fascist. on the other hand ppl who do use that term mostly dont really know what they are talking about and deserve nothing but pity. @immigrant troll: im pretty sure you contributed a lot to your country's history dating back to the 18th century. good points on how well your country did thanks to you. @berliner: just ignore the badly educated, ignorant players on here since theres no hope of educating them. treat them the way they deserve to get treated in-game but dont step down to their level and end up in dumb discussions. |
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getting_revolt wrote
at 9:10 AM, Friday April 22, 2016 EDT Re @toms (#43): "mozart was certainly not german and i really wonder who spreads that misdirection"
Apparently, this misdirection was spread by Mozart himself, he spoke quite directly and unambiguously of his own identity and native country. "Will mich Teutschland, mein geliebtes Vaterland, worauf ich (wie Sie wissen) stolz bin, nicht aufnehmen, so muss in Gottes Namen Frankreich oder England wieder um einen geschickten Teutschen mehr reich werden, รข?? und das zur Schande der teutschen Nation." http://www.zeno.org/Musik/M/Abert,+Hermann/W.A.+Mozart.+Neubearbeitete+und+erweiterte+Ausgabe+von+Otto+Jahns+Mozart/Erster+Teil/Verlobung,+Braut-+und+Ehestand A quick summary for those who do not speak German: He calls Germany his Fatherland, of which he was proud; and the quote also refers to the "German nation". Of course, at the time, the concept of "Germanness"/"Austrianness", and the concept of "Germany"/"Austria" was quite different from its current meaning, and one could easily identify with both of these at the same time (just like English people can have a local identity (e.g. Londoner/Scouse) and also consider themselves British and English.) "either way thats not what this thread is about." I guess, labelling people "nazis" should be considered harrassment/hate language, which (obviously) is against the rules, so there's no point in discussing that at length. |
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toms wrote
at 9:43 AM, Friday April 22, 2016 EDT historically it was the "reason of Empire" aka the roman-german empire and not germany per se. in the meantime germany was parted etc. etc. so german as he called himself back then is not the "german" we know now.
so even people who studied history dont call someone german who was born in salzburg and got famous in vienna. point made |
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getting_revolt wrote
at 9:57 AM, Friday April 22, 2016 EDT @toms: "so german as he called himself back then is not the "german" we know now"
Yeah right, I also did stress that the concept of Germanness was quite different from its contemporary meaning. OTOH, concepts like identity, nationality and national identity cannot be retroactively modified (determined) solely on the basis of current borders superimposed on the historical maps. |
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getting_revolt wrote
at 10:06 AM, Friday April 22, 2016 EDT You might also consider other famous historical figures, like Immanuel Kant.
He was born, lived and died in what is now called Kaliningrad, Russia (and was called Koenigsberg at the time). On the other hand, it would be ridiculous to call him a Russian, even though the city is nowhere near the current German border. |
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toms wrote
at 10:07 AM, Friday April 22, 2016 EDT well lets agree that he was "teutscher" and not "deutscher" :)
back to the "banning" thread: i feel like less ppl are playing this game than back in the "good old days" so id rather not ban those "dumb" people but fleece. free points ;) |
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TheBetterYodel wrote
at 12:26 PM, Friday April 22, 2016 EDT Most of you in this thread are closer to Nazi's than you wanna believe.
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getting_revolt wrote
at 12:48 PM, Friday April 22, 2016 EDT @toms: 'well lets agree that he was "teutscher" and not "deutscher"'
Yeah, he referred to 'Chermany' ("Teutschland"), not 'Germany' (Deutschland) and he swore allegiance to his "Kayser" ('Empereor') and not a "Kaiser" ('Emperor') as we would write it today. OTOH, these minor spelling differences have little to do with the substantive differences between the current and 18th century notion of Germanness. @Yodel: So you think anyone who tries to limit your right to label people "nazi" is a nazi himself? You seem to be confusing freedom of expression with the right to slander. The former is usually recognized by democracies but rarely include the latter... |