I understand your concerns Louis and I'll bring it to Ryan's attention

actually he just updated the bottom section of Kdice, much cleaner now, including a clear privacy section

http://kdice.com/privacy

I think it's conform all international laws now regarding privacy policies but maybe he could add something that your data is also being used on the sister sites.

I actually took the time to check the privacy policy before talking to Ryan about it and the first line of the page says:

This privacy policy sets out how KDice, Gpokr, and XSketch uses and protects any information that you give when you use this website. KDice, Gpokr, and XSketch are committed to ensuring that your privacy is protected.

so it's true that you're not automatically and clearly informed about the other 2 sites when you sign up but actually the information is there now

The privacy section is nice - dating from 2012 is funny to some degree. I must have missed it all the time. Its somehow visible position is an improvement for sure.

It should state that the 3 games share the same userbase. This is not mentioned.

I still think changes should be advertised in a push-manor by mailing persons that signed up rather than a pull-procedure. And I would hope this page is opened automatically when a new account is created so people have been pushed to acknowledging it.

However - better than I remember it to have been. Thanks.

Pursey, the week long ban happened before I spoke to her. My very first question, before explaining anything was "how long is this ban?" I was told "7 days".

After explaining the situation, calmly and clearly, I was told "7 days, period." Nothing changed and no leniency was given. I, and this could be wrong as typing can be weird to translate emotion, felt she was quite mean, basically power tripping, and as I said before seemed to me to give 2 fucks less about my situation. I believe are convo ended by her just getting into another conversation with another player, ignoring me basically.

Pursey I have to ask, 30 days cause another guy cheated? So, if I am at the kdice table and 2 guys PGA the table and the flag out 2-3 right before they kill me I am banned? Or if someone has a clear 1st and then says "im good with 2" and flags do I get banned for funneling? Qazi had this happen 10x last month, no ban for him?

This is and has always been my problem with these sites and how moderators handle situations. So much of the punishment is based strictly on reputation or lack their of. Barbie doesn't/didn't know me, she made it clear when we initially spoke. She banned me without warning AND BEFORE the other guy! I was literally kicked from table 2 minutes before other guy got the boot. No warning, no conversation.. I had to seek HER out, not vice versa.

Pursey says "im lucky I didnt get 30", she gives me "7 period". So Pursey says Im lucky, barbie says im punished! Makes no sense. No rhythm or reason to punishment lengths, just how that mod feels on that day.

I respect the amount of time you put into being on this site or xsketch or gpokr. Its mind boggling the countless hours of life put into this site for free that you guys do. But that doesn't give you (barbie in this case) the right to pick and choose who gets banned and who doesn't when the same crime happens, or how long the suspension is just because they feel that way.

I'm only going to respond to some of this because the rest is completely irrelevant.

You got banned for *cheating*. I fully agree with the ban. You cheated, you got caught. Hence the "period" from the other moderator, if you're caught cheating there isn't wriggle room really. You get banned. You serve the ban, you come back, you don't cheat again and you don't get banned again.

With regards to the length of the ban and "inconsistency", brunettebarbie chose to ban you for 7 days based on the type and severity of the cheating she saw. It's probably also something to do with the fact that it didn't impact too heavily on other players. If it'd been on kdice and there'd been five other players on the table affected, then absolutely 30 days is warranted.

In this situation I can see why 7 days was selected, and I back brunettebarbie 100% on this decision.

The Advisor Team has gotten to the point now where the people on it actually are here because they have been around long term and care about the site and have its best interests at heart. We also communicate together via external methods, sometimes in real time and do confer before some of our decisions. Jurgen and I communicate very often, just as an example.

I fully support the current moderation/advisor team and the decisions they've been making lately.

You got caught, you got a short ban, it'll be over soon :)

Pursey, this whole "you got caught" thing is what is annoying. I didn't get "caught". The other guy was supplying answers.. was I supposed to just not type in the word? I wanted to draw and get better, I wasn't looking for points or moving up some make-believe virtual ladder for a dot next to my name. I drew my pictures, never used a single letter or cheated in anyway. The guy at the table with me, would just write in the chat the word. Am I responsible for his actions?

Apparently I am, and thus I ask why others are not held to the same standards? You can continue to ignore THAT fact by saying it is irrelevant, but it still stands as a fact some others (not just Qazi, was making a point) are held to different standards or given more benefit of the doubt.

You say you agree with her ban of me, and 7 days is nothing really.. lets be honest, but this is about principal. Why not contact me? Why not warn me in chat? A simple "Dick, even though your drawing if you enter words he isn't drawing it's cheating and can get you in trouble" would have solved this problem then, with no further issue. She kicked ME from the table before the other guy... she said NOTHING to me. I was in the middle of drawing and I was removed from the table. Couldn't sit back in, meanwhile I watch the other guy sit at the table and continue writing words.

The situation is what it is Pursey, you can blindly back a moderator because they are 1 of you or believe whatever story she has told but I have told the GODs honest truth here and continue to get called a "cheater" and "just accept the ban". No appeal process and some other persons word holding higher ground then another is not fair and is more like a communist country.

C'mon, that's just ridiculous. "You cheated, got caught, deal with it". Except he didn't even want to cheat.

Let's get it straight. The rules button on xsketch clearly states that one should refrain from using letters. That's pretty clear.

But if another guy uses letters and a noob "guesses" it, that suddenly qualifies as cheating as well?

Yeah, I know there's a sticky blogpost with a slightly more detailed explanation of the rules.

There you find the following:

"A note to regular players:

This is directed at no individual and many of you conform to this.

PLEASE do NOT guess on draws with blatant rule breaking in them.
All this does is encourage those who break the rules and causes new players to get the wrong idea on what is and isn't allowed.

If a drawing has obvious rule breaking please press the warn button and do not guess it.

Thank You."

Note how it says "regular players", since a casual player would likely not check the advisor blog at all.

That was a quite unimpressive way to deal with this by a trigger-happy mod. If she was dealing with an xsketch noob, a simple warning should've done the trick but no... Good luck with turning casual players into PAYING CUSTOMERS with such an attitude.

And to add Pursey let me say this, I am not just some new guy who hasn't had this type of experience and just talking out my ass. I have been around this site since 05, usually I don't like sticking with a single name so I have had some changes. I settled in though with a name for a few years, TheSwiper, and then in Nov of 2014 I was banned by Jurgen for "cussing in chat and proxy accts". I tried to explain the proxy thing, but was ignored. I spoke to Intregal about the situation and had already PRIOR to the ban because I was worried about the proxy accusations as I have a few people use my IP. He knew and tried to speak with Jurgen, it ended with Int telling me to speak with Jurgen about it. I couldn't do so, not blaming Jurgen here as much as timing, so I sat out 3 months. I came back in Feb, saw my acct STILL banned despite a Moderator telling me it wouldn't be a long ban because they (Int) knew of the situation regarding the IP and cussing isn't a long ban.

Well we are now in June of 2015, and TheSwiper is STILL banned. I created this acct to start fresh anyways, bought a membership and moved on. Now, again, I feel I am being punished unfairly and more frustratingly being given NO support on the matter by other MODs who obviously don't know the situation in full and are just walking the line.

This is my problem, judgement decisions being made have permanent consequences and the person making those (awful) decisions face ZERO consequence for their actions. They continue to have power, continue to MOD and continue to make (AWFUL) decisions.

And with all that said I will end it. I have said my peace, and made my point I feel. Hopefully others will keep a closer eye out now and (maybe, hopefully, doubt it though) changes will be put in place that safe guards the PLAYER against inappropriate action taken against them by a Moderator (possibly a legit appeal process/get rid of unwritten rule of you can't overrule another mod's decision).

I will take my 7 day ban for nothing and move on, thank you for responding with what you did (Pursey/Jurgen), while I disagree very much with most of your statements, I thank you for at least addressing the situation. I hope to have a good relationship going forward with all of you as I believe I have in the past, for the most part ;)

Its because you can't mess with the xsketch community, the friendly bunch who are ruled by guidelines - as soon as we sit we get told what not to do and if you cheat/write words you get warned straight up but if you keep doing it you get a ban - if you can't co-operate with that... then being any other player (from the other games) would totally suck for you. Xsketch may be a small community, so don't treat em' like trash :)