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Why does a ban on Xsketch carry over on Kdice?
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Dick Tucker wrote
at 10:28 AM, Tuesday June 9, 2015 EDT
First, I did not know people got banned from Xsketch... do people actually care that much? Secondly, why does a ban on that site carry to this one? Yes, I know they are 'linked' but come on. Completely different games and what I am "banned for 1 week" for is having answers given to me by another player without them drawing. I drew my picture, they guessed right or wrongly, and then they instead of drawing just spelled it out. How does that or should that affect me on kdice?
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superxchloe wrote
at 3:44 PM, Tuesday June 9, 2015 EDT I think this is probably something people should just be aware of? It's the same account either way and cheating anywhere will punish you everywhere. Honestly I don't think it's a bad system- it further discourages cheating on any of the three sites.
If you don't think you should be banned, that's another issue entirely. you should take it up with the mod who banned you and explain the actual situation. |
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DoobiusMalcor wrote
at 10:40 PM, Tuesday June 9, 2015 EDT After years of abusing the morons of kdice I was banned for my first game in kdice by some epic villain named Marice for the same behavior.
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Louis Cypher wrote
at 1:23 AM, Wednesday June 10, 2015 EDT 1) Where ded that nice "Silence of the Lambs" avatar go?
2) I have an account on gpoker and xsketch and am listed as a player there? Holy shit - where was I informed that I do that? I am not sure these games existed when I signed up for kdice (I am sure xsketch didn't). I never went to those sites, I have no intention of ever doing so - how can I be counted there? Of course it does explain how you get several thousand accounts when you see only a few hundred being active... 3) This is a bit like you get imprisoned in country B for a theft you did in country C... This doesn't happen except in cases of very heavy crimes - and then you are deported to country B usually, aren't you? 4) I think both practices a) signing up persons for 3 games without informing them in an open and easily to understand way that you do so and b) enforcing bans across 3 sites, are at least debatable. Will I be signed up for any future game joining the group as well? Good thing we got the forum to have a discussion about it. |
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Pursey wrote
at 7:55 AM, Wednesday June 10, 2015 EDT gpokr and kdice have always been linked and been the same account. There's nothing new here, it's been the same since I got here in 06/07. xsketch got added whenever it came out. If you get banned for cheating then well, sucked in - consider it like WADA, you get caught taking drugs in one sport and you're banned from the lot.
You need to raise your ban with the moderator who banned you. |
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jurgen wrote
at 8:11 AM, Wednesday June 10, 2015 EDT Louis, if you never go to the sister sites, your profile there is completely empty except your general main page. The review pages are completely separate on each game so nobody can see if you're a cheater, a stabber or someone annoying/childish.
Bans however apply on all 3 sites. Which maybe isn't superobviously mentioned but that's OK imo. If you cheated or did something wrong, your account gets (partially or completely) restricted. Violating the rules can result in your score being reset, certain abilities being blocked, or your account being banned. Oops, there it is. A kdicer that goes to play pokr or xsketch probably clicked the link at the bottom of the page anyway. The layout of the sites is the same, you play with the same account. SO it makes a lot of sense to assume you shouldn't abuse the rules on any of the other sites either. Anyway, the current active mods on pokr and sketch are pretty understanding people so if you politely explain that you didn't intend to abuse the rules and that your main site is KDice, they might be willing to take that into account. |
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jurgen wrote
at 8:12 AM, Wednesday June 10, 2015 EDT just read the short version by Pursey
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Gurgi wrote
at 8:26 AM, Wednesday June 10, 2015 EDT it was coded to carry over to all three sites
dont cheat (or just don't get caught) |
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Dick Tucker wrote
at 12:00 AM, Thursday June 11, 2015 EDT The "cheating" I was caught doing was having another guy give ME answers. I didn't ask for them, I didn't give him answers, I drew the picture. He drew nothing, simply typed in a chat box "animal" or whatever the word was.
I explained to the mod I didn't know this could/would get me in trouble, especially since I am a KDice player and my first xsketch game was literally 3 days ago, a day before my ban. She, Barbiegirl or some shit, gave 2 fucks less and said "1 week ban". I was polite, even when faced with the difficult task of being nice to her when I felt she was being a tad bit too much "super cop" for a win lose or draw site. I get it, she's dedicated a better part of her adult life ruling over the world of win, lose or draw Ryan addition.. but come, I was nice and explained the situation clearly to her and got ZERO sympathy. Can we just unban me please? |
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Pursey wrote
at 12:24 AM, Thursday June 11, 2015 EDT Barbie giving you a 7 day ban for cheating/collusion is IMO, pretty light - or rather, in the circumstances pretty fair. The moderator listened to your case and hence why I imagine its 7 days rather than the standard 30 days or so. You've got a solid answer to your question - you get to play again in a couple days.
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Louis Cypher wrote
at 2:10 AM, Thursday June 11, 2015 EDT I am not questioning the practice of penalties crossing sites. That is a way to enforce rules that from my understanding is within the liberties of what the owner can decide to do. However - it should be clearly stated on the rules page.
It might be possible that it has always been the same and signing up for 1 game you were listed for the others as well. I don't recall when I joined here (and can't get it from my profile) and which games existed then. There is nothing wrong with doing that if the owner wants it to be that way. However, signing up I should be informed of what I just did and on how many sites I am listed now. This does not happen in a way one would recognize when creating an account. Currently my data (e-mail adresses basically) are distributed to 3 rather than 1 site without clearly informing me about it. That is a problem - not that it is done, but that I wouldn't know. I think a change is due here. Also all existing accounts should be informed - e.g. by a mail. That way finally anybody knows for sure. When the owner of the sites creates a new game - and xsketch did come later - the accounts and data are passed on to that site as well. I am sure I never agreed to anybody passing my data to any site the owner might ever create or anywhere else. Let's create a totally unrealistic scenario in which the owner creates a childporn-site next with logins required and all existing accounts instantly become members. I'm sure you agree you don't want your mailadress listed there when the thing gets shut down. In consequence, either I am asked if I agree that my data is send to any site created by the owner when I create the account or I am asked if passing the data to the new site/game is ok when it is created. Neither has happened and this is by no means ok from a data handling point of view. Certainly I'd prefer the 2nd approach. Again, send an email and have people that do not agree opt out. It is not a problem for me to have empty accounts that have very low chances of ever being used on xsketch or gpokr. The general handling of data however is critical. I think the suggested steps above would greatly improve the situation - that and a clear statement on the rules page (or another prominent, easy to find spot on the sites). |