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Ban Top 50 completely
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Louis Cypher wrote
at 1:42 AM, Thursday May 28, 2015 EDT
After 2 days of losing games regardless of luck due to very predictable at least borderline OTF at 2k I suggest to simply ban the entire top 50 every month. That way you are certain to eliminate the worst cheaters for sure. It might also give others a chance to go to higher tables. I fully understand anybody not going there.
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greeen wrote
at 2:07 AM, Thursday May 28, 2015 EDT Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose but I know that this months higher tables is not worth playing.
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Arnas Bro wrote
at 1:39 PM, Thursday May 28, 2015 EDT lol Lou i cant play even 500 as my luck suck so badly that i lose every +1 and even +3 roll :D
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Dick Tucker wrote
at 6:20 PM, Thursday May 28, 2015 EDT Ban the entire top 50? Wait, I'm in the top 50. You can't blanket everyone in top 50 with certain packs of people.
I agree about 2K and above though, this is why I stay on 0's and play tournies only at this point in the month. Too much cheating and doing favors. |
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ehervey wrote
at 8:47 PM, Thursday May 28, 2015 EDT very original post from you Louis
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Louis Cypher wrote
at 1:21 AM, Friday May 29, 2015 EDT @herv: The post served its purposed to work off some frustration. I figured, since any brainfarted drugaddict (yes, STJ, that's you I am talking about) can abuse the forum to post shit and think it is funny, I just take the same liberty.
On second thought however, the idea is not that bad at all. Everybody agrees that the higher you move on the leaderboard, the worse the doing favors to each other gets. I don't care if you ban the top 50, top 20 or top 100 (that would include me). Anybody from a certain point is guilty of being involved in the exchange of favors. In addition, anybody playing more than a certain number of games (let's say 300 as a random choice, that'd be 10 every single day) is in strong danger of losing real world contacts and should be given a time off. Most top players beat that number, especially if you count single games in tourneys (don't trust the stats-page). So, in the best case, we cure or help some addicts, we reduce cheating and we get some new players with medals which will encourage them to go on. Worth taking the risk of seeing the same top 100 with new accounts - and I don't see too many other risks. |
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Smoke Two Joints wrote
at 5:43 PM, Friday May 29, 2015 EDT Loius you sure are upset that I call you on your shit aren't you? :)
Keep up the ad hominem attacks. I suppose it's only fair since I do call you a stupid fucker all the time. The difference being I'm being accurate while you are simply repeating my style of attack because you are too stupid to do anything else. |
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Cameron Lucas wrote
at 4:55 AM, Saturday May 30, 2015 EDT Louis i am still (just) hanging in the top 50 (will be my first ever cube/trophy). Ban top 47.
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greeen wrote
at 5:10 AM, Saturday May 30, 2015 EDT Ban Louis Cypher :)
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jurgen wrote
at 3:41 PM, Saturday May 30, 2015 EDT Now I'm not going to pretend that cheating and certainly not favouritism is all well under control but I really feel it's fair to say that things are not as bad as they used to be.
The best way to keep the top tables safe from cheating and manipulators is by everyone going there and playing them. The more fair players play, the harder it becomes for the cheating minority to "rule" the 5k. If they want to keep dominating them, they will have to resort to more obvious cheating in order to keep winning. This will make them easier to catch for the mods. For years now have I tried to ban cheaters (or talk to them so they change habbits) but I've also tried to motivate people to go from lower tables to higher tables. I've also tried to encourage people from speaking up and calling out cheaters. Some people overdo it and they still yell pga in half the games they play. That's just dumb (and isn't helping the game become better at all - it's just more needless negativity and hostility) but let's say that in general it's a good thing if everyone keeps an eye out. Clearly mentioning stuff like "this is the third game in row that you two don't attack each other" is the best way to autopolice the top tables. Of course the mods will keep an eye out too but a lot needs to be done by the community. No witch hunts either though because I have seen people abused and accused simply because they made a logical truce in just one game of playing together. Honestly I really feel that most of the bad apples have left or have been removed by now. If cheating is really still as widespread as it used to be, people need to give me names urgently because I honestly cannot spot any large cheating rings atm |
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kdiceplaya! wrote
at 12:05 PM, Monday June 1, 2015 EDT 2k and 5k regularly fill these days with players that play at a zero table level. I never even notice anything that looks like cheating anymore. It's hard enough to find someone that can even recognize a silent truce, let alone an entire group that cheats.
Why do people still complain after all these years of playing? Sometimes you lose because you are outmatched by the competition. Sometimes you lose because of your emotional state that day/month. Sometimes you go on streaks of poor luck that can last awhile. The luck stat doesn't mean shit btw. It doesn't know which rolls are crucial to game success. It looks at overall rolls. |