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What's the excuse for Qazi et al?
Smoke Two Joints wrote
at 9:29 PM, Thursday May 14, 2015 EDT
Seriously though. The mods go out and ban DLK for "pga" when he played every game clean and was simply a dick to a few people while qazi and his funnel crew go at it again for the umpteenth time.

What gives mods? Did ryan specifically tell you to give these guys the edge because they are the only ones giving him money these days? Sure seems like it.

Hate to have to be making a post like this but after seeing qazi getting funneled by lulz123 and then instead of them being banned they go and complain to the mods about some guy who is simply a better player than they are, I have no choice but to go to the masses!

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Smoke Two Joints wrote
at 6:30 PM, Thursday May 21, 2015 EDT
Ok I had a bad morning admittedly and my response was pretty rude so I'll re-address the issues while apologizing for my blunt comments.

Here is the deal. No one is agreeing with me. You can claim reading compensation all you want but I see no one saying "oh yea qazi funnels" so saying you agree with me is just asinine because my main point is this.

The fact is he was using a proxy account called lulz123 and he was suiciding that account into non friendly players every single game. I wasn't the only one to comment on this in game. It is only natural for players to guard against that kind of play and try to take out the responsible party. To do otherwise would be foolish. It's not an OTF or PGA it's a "hey this random noob account keeps suiciding into everyone but qazi and friends so I should play cautiously." If you come in looking at this 100% objectively (as jurgen should NOT since he has experience with this eastern euro gang) you could conclude that the most proficient players against the proxy player were cheating. This is what Jurgen did and this resulted in bans on Sir Dice and DLK. I was there a few days before when int stopped by and grilled DLK for cheating and it was obvious that qazi was the one doing it because he showed up in the middle and admitted as much. It's not a conspiracy when it's right out in the open on full display.

The deal with Jurgen is even though he "found me not guilty" he seems fit to say I was "lucky" which totally taints me regardless of his ban. If I was lucky then I was lucky to not get caught. It implies he thinks I was guilty. For him to say "oh you weren't though" after that is just 100% propaganda BS.
Louis Cypher wrote
at 11:18 PM, Thursday May 21, 2015 EDT
Nothing wrong with a harsh comment if it holds any content or is good for a laugh - no offense taken, yours fit the 2nd criterium.

Other than that you totally change the accuse here from funneling in a team (sounds a bit like The Kabal 2.0 - or what's the current number?) to proxy-cheating. That's 2 pairs of shoes.

The prior should be detectable from the logs. Having more than 1 mod and Ryan being around that wouldn't work to long if it exceeded the average otf we all fall for. Furthermore teams become suspicious on the table sooner or later, especially if names are given in the forum. You wouldn't think that the Belgium-EasternEurope-Conspiracy includes Canada as well, would you?

The latter is probably harder and should be mostly undetectable at the table. Some account suiciding into random accounts and for reasons unknown missing 1 or 2 for a while - let's call him Higthable-Federer for the time being - actually does not proof much. If he missed that account for months I'd call is suspicious myself.

Regarding api's last comment, in a democracy usually the thing most people voted for happen (or should happen, hello Florida, Gerrymandering and so on). That doesn't mean it is the right thing to do though (not getting into Voltair here). Or just take this quote: "It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that."(G. H. Hardy)
Louis Cypher wrote
at 11:19 PM, Thursday May 21, 2015 EDT
How did Qazi manage to change his accountes name?

Why are you not discussing "The legendary" who made 50k a day - pretty much worse than 30k twice...
jurgen wrote
at 7:58 AM, Friday May 22, 2015 EDT
STJ, either you have extremely bad reading skills or either you're just too stubborn to admit that I was right and so you twist my words once more. My money is on you being too stubborn and too dishonest to yourself to admit the obvious: you favoured DLK.

I said you were lucky that you had to deal with a mod who knows how to evaluate the situation. I judged you to be a DLK groupie but not to the extent that it was pga. So I didn't think you were guilty and I didn't think you deserved a ban for your heavy otf play. I did call you out for it only being borderline OK. Does it really hurt your huge ego so much that you can't admit that you otf DLK? I thought it was pretty damn obvious when you ruined your own best chance in order not to ruin his start.

First you accuse lulz123 of being a pga of qaz. Now that everyone here has proven you wrong, you suddenly change your story to proxy. What gives you the right to accuse people without any proof? All your rants just prove how delusional you are and actually I shouldn't take all this time calling you out for all your bullshit. I thought your TheBetterYodel habits had died but you haven't changed one bit.
Smoke Two Joints wrote
at 11:50 AM, Friday May 22, 2015 EDT
Jurgen you are really grasping at straws here. Quiet pathetic of you but really not unexpected. Run around all you want trying to "Add meaning" to what you say. At the end of the day the leaderboard shows pretty clearly that you favored one player over another. Quiet frankly you should be ashamed of yourself.

Lets dissect one thing you say. You say I changed my story about lulz123. Hardly. I simply said he funneled. A funnel account could be pga or proxy. I would lean much more heavy to proxy since Qazi already had enough real live PGA. At the end of the day does it even matter? Only to someone who is trying to cover up their abuse of mod powers.
jurgen wrote
at 12:07 PM, Friday May 22, 2015 EDT
STJ, you are really grasping at straws here. Quiet pathetic of you but really not unexpected. Run around all you want trying to "Add meaning" to what you say. At the end of the day the leaderboard shows pretty clearly that we are currently May 2015. Quiet frankly you should be ashamed of yourself.
jurgen wrote
at 12:10 PM, Friday May 22, 2015 EDT
quite frankly*

I shouldn't copy your bad grammar
Smoke Two Joints wrote
at 6:54 PM, Friday May 22, 2015 EDT
Pull your head out of your ass homie. Then you would see what the rest of us take you for.
Smoke Two Joints wrote
at 6:56 PM, Friday May 22, 2015 EDT
Every day qazi gains 10k and everyone here is going to seriously say that it's because he's so good. This remind me of people riding shad's cock so hard and then it coming out later that he and many others were deciding placement and if anyone stepped out of line *BANHAMMER*
Omarinho wrote
at 10:22 PM, Friday May 22, 2015 EDT
1. I think STJ needs to smoke more than two joints and chill the fuck out.
2. STJ is a 12 year old seeking for the slightest attention.
3. STJ is a dumbass.
4. Jurgen why are you still replying to him? I had a bit of free time when i was banned due to exams and sometime i would log in to kdice to just casually watch some games for fun, I would disagree with jurg that STJ and DLK weren't pgaing or OTFing or whatever, it was straight up pga i just didn't have the ability to say anything about it.
5. STJ is a dumbass.
Thank you and out.
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