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The Betting System
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Boromakot wrote
at 4:31 PM, Wednesday February 18, 2015 EST
In the chat of a humble tourney (taeglich 250 or some shit alike) I had my first conversation with Ryan, it went like that:
-Ryan, it is an honor. -(silence) -The People is excited when they see the King. -(silence) -You should implant a betting system, for the observers. -It's a good idea. -(Thanks! Bla bla bla...) -(Silence) So what do you, the people, think about a betting system for the observers? Something like writing in the chat: #bet blue 500 or #bet yellow all ?? Of course to avoid betting pgas we need some rules. And we shouldn't be able to bet past certain situations (colors, time, rounds left?) I mean not cool to bet when there are 2 colors, one with a land, and the other with the rest...Post your opinions! But think a little bit first, please. PS: #bet truce 7k ! #bet Thrillho 6th??? Lol joking...but.. |
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THRILLHO wrote
at 7:58 PM, Wednesday February 18, 2015 EST I will address both of your points.
1. To your direct question, it's a bad idea which will be exploited to the nth degree and will never be implemented. 2. I have a feeling that the point of your preamble (and perhaps this whole thread) was to let us know that you wrote to Ryan and he replied to you. I'm glad you got to experience this life changing event. Congratulations! |
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Boromakot wrote
at 3:11 AM, Thursday February 19, 2015 EST The point was to let you know that Ryan thought, au contraire of you, that this was a good idea. Just read man. You know better than him?
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THRILLHO wrote
at 6:21 AM, Thursday February 19, 2015 EST I'm here a lot more than he is, so yes I probably do.
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jurgen wrote
at 12:31 PM, Thursday February 19, 2015 EST I can probably come up with a list of 20 improvements where Ryan said good idea.
The idea isn't completely bad but I share Thrillho's concern that it would be abused and I don't see why a point system based on actively winning points should be combined with points that can be gained passively. So it should be a seperate "sidebet" competition. To come back to my first point: just because it's good or interesting and even despite Ryan saying it's a good idea, it's certainly not a priority as an improvement. Once there is a lot of coding involved (and this sidebetting certainly requires a lot of new code), good ideas quickly find their way to the long todo list. There are 20+ good improvements that probably won't ever make it to Kdice simply because Ryan has a full time job. So it's a matter of prioritising and personally I would put this betting system at the bottom part of the todo list (to give you an idea: 7 places below Gurgi's skull) |
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Boromakot wrote
at 2:11 PM, Thursday February 19, 2015 EST "The idea isn't completely bad but I share Thrillho's concern that it would be abused and I don't see why a point system based on actively winning points should be combined with points that can be gained passively. So it should be a seperate "sidebet" competition."
I copypasted this part because its the only one that said something about the discussion point. The rest of your post could be reduced to: this would need work and code writing, so as Ryan is busy we should prioritize other things, that you dont mention. Yes, creating new things takes time and work, I don't belive there's much to comment about it. So you say: a) This would be abused by cheaters b) You dont see why we should add more exciting yet simple options to the game(^^U), and you deduce it should be like a parallel game, a "separate sidebet". And I think: a) Cheaters gonna cheat, if we come up with a well crafted system of betting it shall be very laborious to cheat, like a lot of people have to agree on bet-cheating, and I belive most of the habitual players love the game enough to not work very hard to fuck it. b) Call it parallel or a principal branch of the game, it's irrelevant. The thing is that it would add new things (simple, fast, powerful) to play with in the game, to gain and lose points (prestige, self-esteem, ego) and to have fun. If you "don't see why", look again. |
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jurgen wrote
at 4:16 PM, Thursday February 19, 2015 EST what I'm saying is
1) This is not a very bad idea at first sight but there are at least 20 other ideas that are better and should be added first. 2) If you would actually add it, it would prove to be a bad idea. 3) If you would actually add it, so be it but then it shouldn't affect your normal point total: these should be separate betting scores. 4) Regardless of combining these points or not, this betting system will be abused since it is human nature to manipulate everything that is easy to manipulate. Basically, people who would score extremely well on this would probably be cheating. fun fact: I was actually one of the first backers of k-betting a few years ago. I think there are some old threads about it on this forum. Now I think it would be a bad idea or at least it wouldn't be as fun as you would think so I don't think this idea should ever be added. Anyway, I'm betting 10k points that this idea will not be added in the next 3 years |
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THRILLHO wrote
at 4:36 PM, Thursday February 19, 2015 EST I think the biggest priority should be fixing the bloody timer.
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integral wrote
at 9:18 PM, Thursday February 19, 2015 EST the biggest priority seems to be making the kdice app atm
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greeen wrote
at 2:21 AM, Friday February 20, 2015 EST I bet some one 2 bucks in a tourney that they'd get 2nd...RABBAT YOU OWE ME 2 BUX! :)
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Boromakot wrote
at 3:29 AM, Saturday February 21, 2015 EST CAMON PEOPLE JUST MAKE THE FUCKING GAME MORE FUN! YES THERE ARE OTHER THINGS TO BE DONE, AND THEY'LL EVENTUALLY BE DONE, JUST PRIORITIZE THE FUUUUUN. BET BET BET BET
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