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So is this is how it really works?
woodcubed wrote
at 5:17 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST
I just read the post by Fiero600. Suffice it to say I find it most revealing. Not the part about people abusing moderator status... not the pga crap at higher level tables... not any of that. I knew all of that. Now, for me, I am a casual player, I have never placed, I have my share of people who say they hate me but probably don't remember me. Really I am just mediocre at this game I figured. Yes, I have had a kdice account, the same and only account since I first signed up for this game in its first year, and I have maybe once gotten to the 5,000 tables Honestly i only try to get points so I can escape the zero tables and for really no other reason. So what is this post about? I will tell you.

Fiero600 says in his goodbye post that the luck for an individual player is affected by whether you have an account. If this is true, I need to think long and hard about whether I should even bother playing. This whole post is a response to this idea, and if it is not true that luck is a manipulated figure, please disabuse me of the notion. I don't spend any time usually in this forum so I would not know if this had come up before.
You see I had thought luck was simply an accounting of how you did, not a variable in the equation itself. Do you know how much stress it causes me, and to other players I am sure, to lose and lose and lose even when I darn well better know the strategy by now? How I will lose, on my first turn, every single attack, even 5v2, and be killed off instantly before the game has even begun? And this is not to say that can''t happen, but seriously. I always figured there was some random number generator somewhere combined with my own mistakes but if there is a thumb on the scale then is there is no point to any of my effort is there? And do I even want to pay to get an advantage over other players that would amount to cheating? In most games with paid perks, you get some magic armor, or a points boost, or another helping hand. But if it is true that paid subscribers get BETTER LUCK or heck even just a privileged few, than what you are telling me is more equivalent to paying not for a stat boost but instead to paying someone to give your opponents a handicap. I play this game because i figured it was a game of strategy mixed with luck and a way to procrastinate occasionally. But apparently it is a game of fixed statistics and politics.

I don't care what goes on at the top of the leader boards. I don't care how rampant the cheating is up in the clouds, and I don't give a crap about point boosts for people who pay for them (because they paid so they should get what is advertised). The only thing i care about, or rather, the only thing i get worked up about, is a basic fairness that comes from true random probability. And if there isn't that one thing, that one most essential component to a game about and centered on the rolling of DICE, then there is no point to any of this, you have causing me small bursts of massive stress for the last 5 YEARS, and I think that anyone who would implement such a system of punishment is a lousy sadist, and ought to be ashamed as a maker of games. If this is true. And please, tell me I am wrong, if i am, because part of me right now sitting here, writing this wants this not to be true, does not wish to believe that i have spent 5 YEARS as the pawn of a sadistic PLOT to provide entertainment for, as fiero600 again so kindly reveals, a "cabal" of special people.

This is not about me though, this is about ALL of the people who come to this site and play a game or two for free in their downtime, or have been doing so with some frequency and wonder occasionally how they could lose so badly, or so quickly, or why the same people always seem to breeze through games unscathed. The very people Fiero mentions, whom I have played with many times having been here as long as I have.

So I guess we are nearing the end of my rant. I don't tend to write long whiny rants, but I just want to know, Ryan, or moderators, or whomever is in charge: Are you punishing me? Are you causing me suffering? Are you cheating us at a fundamental level? This has always been a timewaster for me (in an ok way) but are you wasting my time? I just want to be honestly unlucky- or nothing at all.

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Boner Oiler wrote
at 1:26 PM, Tuesday March 1, 2011 EST
Also the NFL is what one would consider a populist system of resource allocation (draft picks, salary caps, salary cap fines/limitations). The NFL rewards the worst teams and punishes the best teams. The MLB on the other hand does not employ a populist system of resource allocation.
Boner Oiler wrote
at 1:29 PM, Tuesday March 1, 2011 EST
Basically, under your analogy, the NFL and MLB could be considered economic systems wherein the NFL is socialist and the MLB is mostly free market capitalism. The club or "franchises" would then be businesses. Under the NFL/socialist system all the teams have opportunities for success. Under the MLB/free market capitalism only the most wealthy teams have ample opportunities for success.

Are you trying to endorse socialism?
Iastmurti wrote
at 1:29 PM, Tuesday March 1, 2011 EST
shit talking pretentious fans? you root for the celtics and duke bball.
Iastmurti wrote
at 1:30 PM, Tuesday March 1, 2011 EST
dammit i really need to switch accts but im too lazy.
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 1:31 PM, Tuesday March 1, 2011 EST
most american sports are communist systems compared to european sports
Thraxle wrote
at 1:44 PM, Tuesday March 1, 2011 EST
I'm a mod, I want competitive integrity.
Boner Oiler wrote
at 2:00 PM, Tuesday March 1, 2011 EST
I'm a big fan of competitive integrity as well. It's the reason I think education and health care should be free in fact. Think about it, if you're born into a wealthy family you never have to worry about going to a good school, you'll be able to afford the best school you get into. If you're born into a poor family it may not matter how smart you are, you will not be able to afford the best school and as a result you will probably not be as successful as your more fortunate counter part, regardless of merit.


Well I guess you see what I'm getting at. It's a populist sentiment really, it's about affording equal opportunities to everyone so that the best of the best have the opportunity to demonstrate their excellence.

That's how much I love competition.
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 2:13 PM, Tuesday March 1, 2011 EST
in communist norway we have free school choise, so that the rich can pay for a good school, but we use soo much money on the public schools that they are all fairly good them too
Iastmurti wrote
at 2:17 PM, Tuesday March 1, 2011 EST
Boner Oiler wrote
at 2:00 PM, Tuesday March 1, 2011 CST
I'm a big fan of competitive integrity as well.

I stopped reading after that line. Good one veta!
MadHat_Sam wrote
at 2:32 PM, Tuesday March 1, 2011 EST
Thraxle, you woefully mischaracterize the success of NFL teams selling out every game. Many teams suffered from an inability to sell out games last year. Jacksonville, Carolina, Tampa Bay, San Diego, Oakland, Buffalo, St. Louis and Detroit all suffered blackouts from an inability to sell out their games even as the NFL softened the blackout rules.

You cannot compare NFL attendance and MLB attendance really either as the scarcity of NFL games increases the demand but even so many teams are unable to sell out.

Also the Supreme Court ruled in American Needle inc vs NFL that despite anti-trust exemptions they are individual franchises despite acting in concert in many ways.

I continue to fail to understand people that think a baseball teams success is solely based on its ability to spend the most money on free agents. It is an asinine assertion backed by no actual facts.

Oakland competed with a small salary.
Minnesota continues to compete with a small salary until last year when they spent more.
Tampa Bay competes with a small salary for the most part, especially compared with its divisional rivals.
San Diego manages to field a competitive team despite a small salary.
Cincinnati won its division last year despite being at least 3rd if not 4th or 5th in salary in its division.
Milwaukee, passionate fans and small payroll and often a competitive team.
Texas....

I could go on, baseball is a regional sport in that that many of the teams make money on regional not national telecasts and broadcasts agreements like the NFL does. The badly run and poorly followed MLB teams are in the dire straights they are in because they have been mismanaged as franchises and not because they cannot compete financially with the Yankees and Red Sox.

Baseball teams shouldn't be marketed as national brands unless the team can support that business model, like the Yankees and Red Sox can. This doesn't mean they don't field an successful and popular team. Outside of the bottom 2-3 teams in Baseball the marginal difference in ability to compete between the teams is much smaller than the difference between their payrolls.
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