I got to 71-80 and started skim reading incredibly aggressively.

120posts of nothingness. This was hyped up as drama, when really all thats happened is one unsubstantiated claim of abuse. Booooring.

stfu: websters: 1. shut the fuck up

A lot of personal attacks have been made against me here, a lot of horrible grubby stuff, please dont shut this down until i have the opportunity of a rebuttal. I think it would be pretty unfair.

Can i just add before i post later, this is not and no part of it is a personal attack on jurgen,

i presented facts,
i named it and
i suggested a penalty.

In fact the only part of it that is personal is "Sorry jurgs, i know a lot of your actions and deeds on dice have been great for the site" ...

i know my english is not very good because i am australian, if anyone has taken this the wrong way it's not a personal attack rather a recognition of the good jurgen has done for the site :P


ps: who wants to see "the email" i was so hoping jurgs would have put it up

feel free to put the email, only I would prefer you would respect the wishes of the other person involved not to do it (if you even care to have a chance of ever being friends with him again). I already said the email contained nothing dramatical,that it only showed your two faced character that talks behind my friends back and kisses up to me on the expense of my other friend. If you really think me showing that email to my friend would have cost you your friendship, that's dumb. When are you going to realize it was your own actions that my friend experienced himself that got us both to decide you were a fake friend. This is just as retarded as noobs thinking they lost either because of bad luck or because of pga. You lost 2 friends because of yourself.

feel free to defend your twisted facts and lower your credibility even more, I have nothing more to add to my defense unless you start twisting more stuff.

It surprises me you need 3 days to answer here but you have plenty of time to discuss it with mutual friends.

jurgen you need to stay out of forums jeeze

what is this one even about dont feel like reading all 124 pages

Jurgen once again you have shown nothing more than your lack of ability to control your emotions. Nothing in here is a personal attack on you, it is all fact.

You've taken it and made it another opportunity to personally attack me and throw a bit of mud.

I refuse to get into a public slanging match with you, i will stick to facts.

You used the exact authority you are given to provide people with fair and honest play to bash and bully a poor newbie when her only crime was inexperience.

She (derya) should be protected and helped by mods, her game play is not up for question or debate, i agree 100% is was pathetic and frustrating (she should have flagged out 10 rounds earlier)...

but instead of giving her a fair go, you abused her firstly as a player, then you stepped up the ante and used the very powers and your position of authority to threaten her as jurgs the mod.

I truly fail to see what i have twisted and distorted here. I made an allegation that you abused your position of authority, i have no doubts whatsoever you would have carried out your threat, i have never once said you would have, but a threat of your power is enough in my book to say you have abused a position of trust.

Instead of defending your position and actions you turned this to your personal page of lets abuse, discredit and insult matt as much as i can. Is it that in your heart you know i have a valid point and you have no valid arguement against it?

Please feel free to explain what i have twisted and distorted?

ps: if the abuse you hurled at derya stayed coming from jurgs the player i would have had no problem at all with what you did.
it wouldnt have mattered who it was, if i saw any mod behave in the manner you have i would have posted it.

one thing to add, you seem to think you have something over me with "the email" in it i even validate it by saying "if asked i would even say to [third person]"

one thing to add, you seem to think you have something over me with "the email" in it i even validate it by saying "if asked i would even say to [third person]"

mat, I'm pretty sure everyone already decided that this was a relatively harmless joke taken way out of proportion presented with no context.

Final wall of text, attempting to KO Gurgi

Reporting chat abuse (read my advisor blog)
********************

Kdice is full of people with a short fuse. Half the games, people use words like moron, fuck, etc. If we are going to ban every swear word, Kdice will run out of players in just one day. Even saints fucking swear.

jurgen: i am pissed i am warnign you

jurgen: if yo udont flag out next turn derya
(there was a long silence in between here, we passed the deadline I gave her to flag during this period)
jurgen: i swear you can get -play for 3 days
(this came after she ignored the Xth kind but firm request to flag out - THAT IS ONE FREAKING LINE WHERE I GO ALL OUT TO EXPRESS THE ANNOYANCE THAT EVERYBODY FELT, I JOKED ABOUT THE DUMBNESS OF NOT FLAGGING )

This is why I don't ban people for one rant at the end of a game

maybe twist is not the right word, I know my english is not very good because i am belgian, please excuse me blah blah, oh and let's finish with a FAKE :P

I got upset because you presented only the facts that served your thin case, I already explained before but just to answer you, I will say again that you "forget" to mention the game was decided, that everyone agreed derya was 6, we already rolled off for 4 5 ffs. There was no reason for me to get worried I was going to have to take 6 so I did not NEEEEED to use any extorting power to ensure her being 6. We were all just grew tired of the stalling and I expressed my discontent with a joke, about something I would never ever do and that should have been clear to every player with an IQ of over 80 that that was so insane that it was a joke.

find me one player that hasn't been annoyed to death by someone refusing to flag out and save everybody dom and more importantly time. Sure, not everybody expresses it that vocal but I think everybody here has been just as pissed about a case like this. Sure I am supposed to be a role-model, start a petition for having only perfect mods for all I care. Hell, this proves why not every fuck or nigger is banned.

I had no problem with derya after the game, my annoyance for her left quickly after the game. I did not follow or stalk her and I certainly did not ban her even though she overstepped the "deadline of flagging" I gave her by 5 or so turns (3 to autoresign). If I indeed had banned her or kept harassing her, you had a case and I would have given myself a one week virtual ban already.

The resizing of the picture was so obvious to not show the table set up, so people conveniently couldnt see how big everyone was and where deryas 8 stack was.


But anyway, like monte said, if this had been reported by another player, I would have mainly replied with LOL, defended my case much shorter and it quickly would have been over and forgotten with.

But this being reported by a so called friend touched me so much more of course, especially since I know what the entire story behind all is. You can claim all you want this was a pure abuse report and put the "nice and fake" face up to say "sorry jurgs, i know blah blah" or "if anyone has taken this the wrong way it's not a personal attack rather a recognition of the good jurgen has done for the site :P " . Just put you real face up and have the balls to come talk to me in person about the problems you have with me. Again, I give you an answer to your last mail, I am there an entire day for you to talk to, you are online an entire day only to stalk me (yes I noticed you followed me and never talked all day) and then you just post this. You said you were not angry or upset in your last mail, this sure looked like the opposite to me. Why couldn't you just say you were furious and were going to try everything you could to bring me down?

Do I have to keep repeating myself about that email? I said it enough that it's not world chocking news. But if there is nothing in there why do you accuse me of giving it to the 3rd person it concerns? or what would have been the harm? Fact is I didn't because I considered you to be a friend and I responded to you in private that I appreciated your support but that you did not need to worry about my friendship with the other person.

Sad thing is, both me and my friend got doubts about your behavior independently. After seeing all of this, it was a good confirmation to find out we were both right.

finally, "if i saw any mod behave in the manner you have i would have posted it."

Sure, it still would have been a very bad case that only killed your own reputation. If I would see a mod misbehave, I would go talk to him first before posting anything (before I became mod too). If I would see a friend cheat or misbehave, I would go to him first and talk, only ban after that. Plenty of friends have come to me by now, questioning my bans or actions. I happily take the time to discuss, I am open and don't get offended if a freidn speaks his mind. In fact you did it once before and we had a good open talk. I can't see why you couldn't have done that again.

Let's just assume the crazy hypothesis you were my good friend and you just posted this out of the blue without any background disputes going on like now or without talking to me first. DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK THAT WOULD NOT PUT A TINY DENT IN OUR FRIENDSHIP?????

This was hopefully the last half hour I had to spend on this matter. I am still prepared to switch back to email or other private communications but I think there is not much more to say.