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Most influential person in the last decade?
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truce me im int wrote
at 1:03 PM, Tuesday March 2, 2010 EST
I would have to go with George W. Bush here.
maybe Osama Bin Laden. thoughts? |
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dasfury wrote
at 11:17 AM, Thursday March 4, 2010 EST This was your complete sentence:
"i repeat terrorism is nothing new except for americans" You never mentioned anything about distinguishing between incidents that occur on our soil, are solely limited to domestic issues or due to international issues. Again, i listed those incidents to prove that America has a history of dealing with terror incidents and among them is a range of occurences that show examples of each. "u also mentionned plane jacking ! --> Did it take place IN the USA ? NO NO NO ! " Planes do not necessarily need to be hijacked from the US to involve us. On many occasions these planes had American citizens aboard and directly affected people in this country. Your knowledge of history is very limited charles. A fair number of planes travelling from US airports from teh 1950s thru the 1970s were hijacked by Cuban militants. " Have ever heard about algerian terrorism against trains and "métro" stations in Paris during the 80's ? Of course not !!! - Bombings in the streets during the 70's linked to Palestina ? Of course not !!! " I unlike you have a broad knowledge of world events and well aware that terrorism has been rapant in all parts of the world. I recognize these events and am not disputing them. LIke you seem to like to dispute that before 9/11 America had no history of dealing with terrorism. "Bin Laden made the people of the USA be a part of the world by a bloody experience." America has been policing the entire world for well over a century. You seem to not know that America has been on the forefront of world politics since well before your time. We are greatly aware that any and all of our actions have consequences, but we are willing to fight for our beliefs and the basic rights of ALL human beings. Whether that entails slowing the onslaught of mass genocide, spreading the liberties and civil freedoms that americans enjoy to depressed nations and cultures or spearheading disaster relief around the world. We know we do not live on an island, we may be separated by oceans from the remainder of the worlds populations, but we strive to protect freedom and share the wealth with the world as a whole. We do this because it is in our best interest. And if terrorism wants to block our path, then we will fight the good fight and do our best to succeed, all the while sacrficing American lives and American dollars. If we didnt show up on the beach at Normandy... (well you know the rest) |
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Pot of Gold wrote
at 11:20 AM, Thursday March 4, 2010 EST charlesVII was your dad a serviceman who knocked your mom up and left you without US citizenship? It would explain the anger.
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fiero600 wrote
at 11:22 AM, Thursday March 4, 2010 EST summary : USA #1 BABY!
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charlesVII wrote
at 11:31 AM, Thursday March 4, 2010 EST Before 2001, nobody was talking about terrorism on your own territory in the USA.
After that, it's been a real obsession of every day and every US politician speech. It's the facts u cant contest, I dont say anything but the truth ! It's amazing u contest it though ! Terrorism is new for u, it's a reality since decades in other countries. That's all the truth ! |
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superxchloe wrote
at 11:35 AM, Thursday March 4, 2010 EST "Before 2001, nobody was talking about terrorism on your own territory in the USA. "
"There were two known or suspected terrorist acts recorded in the United States in 1995, three in 1996, four in 1997, five in 1998, and 12 in 1999." http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress01/freeh051001.htm http://social.jrank.org/pages/1318/Terrorism-Domestic-Terrorism-Before-September-11-2001.html |
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superxchloe wrote
at 11:39 AM, Thursday March 4, 2010 EST I would also look at these wiki articles, Charles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism_in_the_United_States |
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charlesVII wrote
at 11:53 AM, Thursday March 4, 2010 EST Now the USA have experienced terrorism, there are things u have understand now (what other nations haver understood since decades):
1/ Terrorism is something irrational and quite useless. 2/ It's possible to live with fear of terrorism. That's not so terrible. 3/ Nobody can win against terrorism. Bit it's possible to take precautions and prevent it quite well 4/ To "make a war against terrorism" doesnt mean anything ! its' exactly as trying to fight ghosts in a crowd ! So "making war" against terrorism is something irrational and useless exactly as terrorism itself is smg irrational and useless as well 5/ there's a balance to find between safety and citizen rights. Citizen rights MUST be guarranted in spite of terrorism and fear 6/ be carefull of politicians who use fear to govern (see what i mean ?) Good luck |
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superxchloe wrote
at 12:01 PM, Thursday March 4, 2010 EST Did you not read anything, Charles? It's pretty clear that the US has been dealing with terrorism for a long time, just like any other country.
4/ To "make a war against terrorism" doesnt mean anything ! its' exactly as trying to fight ghosts in a crowd ! So "making war" against terrorism is something irrational and useless exactly as terrorism itself is smg irrational and useless as well our bad for trying to make the world a better place. i'm pretty sure you can fight terrorism via fighting terrorist organisations btw. |
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dasfury wrote
at 12:10 PM, Thursday March 4, 2010 EST "Before 2001, nobody was talking about terrorism on your own territory in the USA"
"Now since the US experienced terrorism" FFS charles. I have repeatedly told you and shown examples of times prior to 9/11 that the US has experienced terrorism on our soil. It may be the case that you never heard about them on Frog TV or paid any attention, because the did not directly affect you. |
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truce me im int wrote
at 12:11 PM, Thursday March 4, 2010 EST Wait charles you're from france?
dont' you guys have a very large Algerian muslim population? that rioted? and didn't you guys introduce new laws against radical islam (banning burkas in public etc...) you don't think 9/11 and Al Qaeda is responsible for the spread of radical Islam? |