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Fatman_x takes the 2010 TAZD; computation of complete standings in progress.
Posted By: skrumgaer at 6:51 PM, Saturday January 1, 2011 EST
Here are Fatman_x's final stats:
1631 22% 16% 13% 12% 10% 11% 11% 22535 Fatman_x
Olkainry38 did not play any additional games after Dec 21.
Here were the two leaders on Dec 21:
1591 22% 16% 13% 13% 10% 11% 11% 21975 Fatman_x
0894 22% 20% 16% 13% 11% 08% 07% 21798 olkainry38
The November scores are below. They were recomputed when I found I had been using the 2009 datum instead of the 2010 datum.
The Test Against Zero Datum (TAZD) is a weighted sum of the squares of the differences between a player's percentage profile and the profile of a typical player with a zero score, adjusted according to the square root of the number of games played. If you would like to enter the cumulative TAZD competition for 2010, reply to this thread in the account that you want to enter.
In 2010, the cumulative TAZD began in April, because some January, February, and March profiles had corrupted percentages.
A minimum of sixty regular games per month was required.
Entries show number of games, percentages, and player name.
A minimum of 540 regular games played was required to remain in the standings as of December 31.
Here are the end of November standings with the new datum.
0815 22% 20% 16% 13% 11% 09% 07% 20192 olkainry38
1324 22% 16% 13% 13% 10% 13% 11% 19645 Fatman_x
0886 21% 18% 18% 13% 11% 08% 07% 19382 the full monte
1612 15% 19% 16% 14% 14% 11% 07% 17412 Xar
2297 18% 15% 14% 15% 13% 13% 10% 17190 Fonias
1282 19% 15% 14% 14% 13% 13% 09% 14698 ProxyCheater
1089 19% 16% 12% 15% 13% 12% 09% 14359 ZIGIBOOM
1817 16% 18% 12% 10% 11% 13% 16% 14038 cool g
0731 18% 22% 12% 10% 08% 11% 16% 14010 leeroy jenkins
1810 19% 14% 12% 12% 13% 15% 12% 13270 caesar-blue
2990 13% 11% 11% 08% 09% 10% 34% 12928 noamlang1
0519 21% 15% 18% 11% 12% 08% 12% 12080 chaiNblade
1597 19% 14% 09% 09% 10% 13% 24% 11916 greekboi
0769 22% 14% 09% 13% 13% 13% 14% 11355 dasfury
1054 18% 14% 13% 13% 12% 11% 15% 09627 yellowfin
0698 17% 15% 10% 13% 14% 14% 13% 06707 speciale528
0662 17% 14% 12% 12% 13% 13% 15% 06340 AlexBallDrop
1122 11% 15% 15% 14% 11% 12% 18% 05785 pooch723
1625 16% 12% 11% 10% 12% 15% 22% 06512 kendawg
0613 14% 11% 17% 11% 11% 15% 16% 04945 vIRGI
1631 22% 16% 13% 12% 10% 11% 11% 22535 Fatman_x
Olkainry38 did not play any additional games after Dec 21.
Here were the two leaders on Dec 21:
1591 22% 16% 13% 13% 10% 11% 11% 21975 Fatman_x
0894 22% 20% 16% 13% 11% 08% 07% 21798 olkainry38
The November scores are below. They were recomputed when I found I had been using the 2009 datum instead of the 2010 datum.
The Test Against Zero Datum (TAZD) is a weighted sum of the squares of the differences between a player's percentage profile and the profile of a typical player with a zero score, adjusted according to the square root of the number of games played. If you would like to enter the cumulative TAZD competition for 2010, reply to this thread in the account that you want to enter.
In 2010, the cumulative TAZD began in April, because some January, February, and March profiles had corrupted percentages.
A minimum of sixty regular games per month was required.
Entries show number of games, percentages, and player name.
A minimum of 540 regular games played was required to remain in the standings as of December 31.
Here are the end of November standings with the new datum.
0815 22% 20% 16% 13% 11% 09% 07% 20192 olkainry38
1324 22% 16% 13% 13% 10% 13% 11% 19645 Fatman_x
0886 21% 18% 18% 13% 11% 08% 07% 19382 the full monte
1612 15% 19% 16% 14% 14% 11% 07% 17412 Xar
2297 18% 15% 14% 15% 13% 13% 10% 17190 Fonias
1282 19% 15% 14% 14% 13% 13% 09% 14698 ProxyCheater
1089 19% 16% 12% 15% 13% 12% 09% 14359 ZIGIBOOM
1817 16% 18% 12% 10% 11% 13% 16% 14038 cool g
0731 18% 22% 12% 10% 08% 11% 16% 14010 leeroy jenkins
1810 19% 14% 12% 12% 13% 15% 12% 13270 caesar-blue
2990 13% 11% 11% 08% 09% 10% 34% 12928 noamlang1
0519 21% 15% 18% 11% 12% 08% 12% 12080 chaiNblade
1597 19% 14% 09% 09% 10% 13% 24% 11916 greekboi
0769 22% 14% 09% 13% 13% 13% 14% 11355 dasfury
1054 18% 14% 13% 13% 12% 11% 15% 09627 yellowfin
0698 17% 15% 10% 13% 14% 14% 13% 06707 speciale528
0662 17% 14% 12% 12% 13% 13% 15% 06340 AlexBallDrop
1122 11% 15% 15% 14% 11% 12% 18% 05785 pooch723
1625 16% 12% 11% 10% 12% 15% 22% 06512 kendawg
0613 14% 11% 17% 11% 11% 15% 16% 04945 vIRGI
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skrumgaer wrote
at 7:16 PM, Thursday July 1, 2010 EDT I have fallen behind in getting the new entries in the list because of the server being down when I was at my dedicated machine with the spreadsheets.
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Vermont wrote
at 3:40 PM, Tuesday August 3, 2010 EDT Should it matter how many games he's played if he has 39% 7ths? Pretty sure that guy shouldn't be winning under any circumstances, unless maybe he had 61% 1sts to go along with it. However, not a single stat is above average except for 7th.
I may just be misunderstanding what this computation actually means though, but shouldn't this math hold? (lots of games * BAD) = consistently bad? |
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pooch723 wrote
at 5:09 PM, Tuesday August 3, 2010 EDT skrumgaer, Whenever ya get the time to add new people I would like to be considered...but inform me first...I understand how u do this and really would prove a point to some on this..lol. thanks
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superxchloe wrote
at 8:20 PM, Tuesday August 3, 2010 EDT Vermont- normally the TAZD should give players with high 7th percentages poor TAZD scores but because his is SO far from the norm, it's equivalent to having 30% firsts.
I certainly wouldn't say that he should be 'winning' by any means. That, or skrum shouldn't call the tazd a 'measure of skill' (as it is described on his wall) but rather a 'measure of deviation from the zero datum set'. |
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skrumgaer wrote
at 8:49 PM, Tuesday August 3, 2010 EDT Vermont:
Lots of sevenths does not necessarily mean "bad". MadHatSam, for example, characteristically has lots of sevenths. But not 60% in 300 games like noamlang1 did in May. Getting 60% sevenths in 300 games seems pretty hard to do even if you are trying to be bad. Perhaps people who participated in games with noamlang1 in May can give us some illuminating info. |
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skrumgaer wrote
at 8:54 PM, Tuesday August 3, 2010 EDT chloe:
My Wall says that the TAZD gives a stronger measure of _positive_ skill than the TAPL does. Noamlang1's TAPL is bigger than his TAZD. |
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superxchloe wrote
at 9:40 PM, Tuesday August 3, 2010 EDT skrum: the tapl is described as a measure of skill, and the tazd is a modified tapl. Yes, the tazd is a stronger measure of positive skill, but the fact that noamlang1's statistics are so far off even from the zero datum illustrates that the tazd isn't a test of skill, it's a test of deviation from a specific data set. that's all it is.
60% 7ths is not difficult to achieve... just flag out after first round a lot. Look at noamlang1's last ten games: 5/10 were 7th. four of those lasted a whole one round. In any case, as a test of positive skill, noamlang1 should not be 'winning' the tazd competition. |
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Vermont wrote
at 8:53 AM, Wednesday August 4, 2010 EDT You compare Sam's typical 7th percentage with noamlang1's 45%? They're not even close.
And Sam will have stats for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd ABOVE the expected average, while noamlang1's are all below. There is nothing in those percentages that should give him the top spot. In fact, looking at the list, I'm not sure you can say noamlang1 should rank above anyone. When someone with 10% first, 9% second, and 9% third (let alone 45% 7th) tops your list, and supposedly this is an indication of skill, something is obviously wrong with the calculation. |
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Vermont wrote
at 8:57 AM, Wednesday August 4, 2010 EDT Hmm. My previous post doesn't appear to have submitted. In an effort to avoid a duplicate post I will see if this goes up correctly.
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skrumgaer wrote
at 10:25 AM, Wednesday August 4, 2010 EDT Vermont:
The 2010 TAZD still has 5 months to run. I don't think noamlang1 will win it. The TAZD goes as the square root of the number of games and noamlang1 has so many games that he would have to play twice as many new games as the full monte, with no change in the percentage profile of either, to keep from being overtaken. Noamlang1 appears not to be gaming the system to try to win the TAZD. Otherwise he would be maintaining his 60% sevenths each month. His firsts, seconds, and thirds are improving but it takes time for the average to bring down the tail of his "scorpion" profile. If noamlang1 wants to lowball the TAZD, others may want to copy by preflagging him. If there is more interest in lowballing the TAZD, there is not a real problem because you can tell who is lowballing or not and have two separate lists. |
