Which team was it? There are like 30 to 40 teams roaming around on the 0 and 100 tables, trying to prevent all skilled players like you to make it to 2k.

I'd like to know which one doesn't leave kills any more so I can have a word with them about game etiquette.

Here were the more blatant ones today, in my opinion:

http://kdice.com/games/71624280 (complete w/late game suspicious lag right after kill denied)

http://kdice.com/games/71623439 (note brown's weird threat after I denied his weak flag)

Where do I sign up? Are there tryouts?

you already got one idiot

Yeah but if we joined we could have like a full table team instead of just the 2 of us. There's no problem when all 7 players are in the same team, right?

The sarcasm and belittling are really great, Jurg, and definitely add to the credibility of the mods. Just like when you and other mods would mock my insisting that lag script existed until suddenly some genius started typing "I AM USING A LAG SCRIPT" during a tourney. Pretend to care about why the site isn't growing, and keep ignoring the opinions and concerns of everyone who isn't involved in the shenanigans. Low-level, low-stakes cheating on KDice are real and rampant, and really do make the game unpleasant for folks who don't join in on it.

@Spuh: Take a step back and read your first post again. There is no proof, no evidence, no nothing. This is just a general rant like you can read it uncounted times in the chatbox every day. I am amazed Jurgen was bored enough to even answer to this pointless post. It must be because of his respect for your account.

While his account sounds sarcastic it might even be the truth to some point. Maybe there are several teams of low-lifes harvesting the 0 tables. 3 mods is just not enough to really take care of that.

You might have noticed that there was no further mocking of you by mods after you did post some evidence (I haven't checked it, but I expect it to be evidence). The jokes afterwards came from the usual amusing suspects that you should have learned to ignore by now.

So - if there was enough evidence in those replays I am certain the teams will be watched more closely. After you provided evidence the mods stopped mocking you - all is good. Be happy. Lose a 2k vs me (now that is a real challenge) :-)

Louis hit the nail on the head.

Your first post was so ridiculously wrong (or exaggerated: of course there are some teams on the lower tables...but we're trying to remove them) that the only way I could think of to point out how stupid the claim was, was to play along with you.

Louis was also right that all you have to do is link us to the right replays and if there was clear pga in them it would be taken care of.

...which is why I didn't bother addressing you directly in the first post, because you have made clear that very little game conduct short of saying "WE ARE CHEATING" in chat over the course of a tournament or several games on a 2000 table or above will get action. (That, or bothering a mod or a friend of a mod, or posting dirty words or pictures.) You have also made clear that 0 and 100 tables are left largely unobserved.

The PGA is clear to me in the games I posted; I think it's clear enough to you as well, but suspect you think it's harmless enough not to bother. At any rate, you didn't say a thing about the games I posted. At least put in that much effort!

At certain times of day and except for a short sweet spot in the middle of the month, it is nearly impossible to find a clean game on a 0 or 100 table. Didn't use to be much of a problem because I would get off of those tables early in the month -- now, it takes as long to start a 500 game as it used to be to start a 2000, and you can end up in the swamp after just one bad points loss day.

So I accept that you won't do anything about this; when it was clear that lag cheating wasn't going to be taking seriously by mods (until it was made impossible to ignore), I used to talk directly to the lag cheaters, too -- and they'd very often back off for a while! Who knows, maybe I can catch a kill from somebody's incompetent alt if I ask nicely.

I AM USING A LAG SCRIPT