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Confused by unwritten rules
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zorrilla wrote
at 12:06 AM, Tuesday January 6, 2015 EST
Hi, I started playing today (I had played a little some years ago). I am quite confused and frustrated with the unwritten etiquette.
In one game a player told me 'flag', I thought he meant a proposal of non-aggression. I didn't think that would benefit my strategy so I kept playing and attacked him, but he was outraged. Later I read some posts about verbal flagging, which seemed quite inconclusive with different interpretations, so I don't really get how it works. The next game, I was holding my ground vs 2 slightly stronger and 1 slightly weaker opponents. I fought one of the strong ones until it was apparent I would lose to him, so I turned to the weaker to get 3rd place, but everyone was outraged, like "WOW!" "way to go, purple"... Apparently, everyone assumed I was in a team with the weaker one??? What? But I wasn't! The reason I didn't attack it before is that I was busy trying to cut the stronger one in half, and my border was well covered against the weaker one. So how did I end up in a team with Red? Maybe one of the strong ones flagged to the other or something, and that means the rest of us is assumed to be a team? I'm really puzzled. For example, to beat a stronger enemy you might need more territories or better positions that are held by the guy who flags to you. But I can't attack it, so how is that supposed to work? Right now I'm discouraged to keep playing. It's hard enough to survive in the game as it is, but I find the learning curve of the social part too steep, it's not cool when people tell you that you are spoiling the game, for doing something that nobody ever explains to you. o_O Best! Juan |
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rushwing wrote
at 2:13 AM, Tuesday January 6, 2015 EST Jaun- it's a bit complicated and I dont think theres any clear cut right or wrong. Verbal flagging is really common, and its generally good to accept verbal flags strategically and socially, but you're absolutely still in your right to not accept a flag. It's best to say that you aren't accepting it and why you aren't to avoid and angry backlash. ie- sorry but i need more land. Some players always accept verbal flags and think its rude to not do so and other players frequently reject them. You have to choose for yourself how to play it.
I find that no matter how you decided to play the game, you will always have people whining at you or saying your bad and messing the game up. Always. It's part of kdice i think. Sometimes it can become too much and even toxic, when youre just tryin to play a damn game. Good luck to you. |
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greeen wrote
at 5:02 AM, Tuesday January 6, 2015 EST Juan - You don't have to accept the flags if you don't want to, as in if you think it won't benefit you, you can disregard the flag and play on. Yeah that other guy, player will be upset trying to survive but if he asks for counter, which is telling every one else to gang up on you, and they agree then you're screwed. Kdice I've learnt is about how lucky you are in round 1 just before the game begins, but once you get to a higher table it gets a bit frustrating, knowing who to trust and who to not trust because some people don't care who you are. eg Thrillho. You get to know how people play once you play for a while, or you can watch them play and see how they connect in the game which is also an insight on how the players do their strategies. Sometimes people misunderstand what you are really doing in the game, and they yell at you like you're an idiot for doing something mistakenly. Some players never forgive you and hold a long term grudge carrying to their grave perhaps, and some others try to gather up like-minded people like themselves to over-complicate all your games by teaming up against you because they suck. Next time, when you play ask for flags up which means even if you were close to death, or maybe if you didn't trust them enough, you know that their flag is up and that is a trait of honour. If you see me playing, feel free to join in. This game gets frustrating and it may seem a bit discouraging now but every thing comes in due time. Just have fun and keep rolling. Every thing will be okay. If not you can go and draw at Xsketch. Xsketch is like pictionary, where they give 1/3 words and you draw it according to how you think its interpreted. We welcome you there if you feel Kdice is too much for you. All the best for the new year!
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zorrilla wrote
at 11:14 AM, Tuesday January 6, 2015 EST Thanks for the replies, I understand how after people get more experienced they get into teaming up and flagging, when they can't win in a game. I see how that adds a dimension to the game for those who like social games. But IMO it's almost an exploitation of the game, I find it boring to watch players discuss who dies first, and then eat the other's territories one at a time to get the kill. Quite contrary to the spirit of the flag system, which was to speed up games.
I see how many players regard it as a honor code, but for me as a new player it's just too much drama. :( |