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So is this is how it really works?
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woodcubed wrote
at 5:17 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST
I just read the post by Fiero600. Suffice it to say I find it most revealing. Not the part about people abusing moderator status... not the pga crap at higher level tables... not any of that. I knew all of that. Now, for me, I am a casual player, I have never placed, I have my share of people who say they hate me but probably don't remember me. Really I am just mediocre at this game I figured. Yes, I have had a kdice account, the same and only account since I first signed up for this game in its first year, and I have maybe once gotten to the 5,000 tables Honestly i only try to get points so I can escape the zero tables and for really no other reason. So what is this post about? I will tell you.
Fiero600 says in his goodbye post that the luck for an individual player is affected by whether you have an account. If this is true, I need to think long and hard about whether I should even bother playing. This whole post is a response to this idea, and if it is not true that luck is a manipulated figure, please disabuse me of the notion. I don't spend any time usually in this forum so I would not know if this had come up before. You see I had thought luck was simply an accounting of how you did, not a variable in the equation itself. Do you know how much stress it causes me, and to other players I am sure, to lose and lose and lose even when I darn well better know the strategy by now? How I will lose, on my first turn, every single attack, even 5v2, and be killed off instantly before the game has even begun? And this is not to say that can''t happen, but seriously. I always figured there was some random number generator somewhere combined with my own mistakes but if there is a thumb on the scale then is there is no point to any of my effort is there? And do I even want to pay to get an advantage over other players that would amount to cheating? In most games with paid perks, you get some magic armor, or a points boost, or another helping hand. But if it is true that paid subscribers get BETTER LUCK or heck even just a privileged few, than what you are telling me is more equivalent to paying not for a stat boost but instead to paying someone to give your opponents a handicap. I play this game because i figured it was a game of strategy mixed with luck and a way to procrastinate occasionally. But apparently it is a game of fixed statistics and politics. I don't care what goes on at the top of the leader boards. I don't care how rampant the cheating is up in the clouds, and I don't give a crap about point boosts for people who pay for them (because they paid so they should get what is advertised). The only thing i care about, or rather, the only thing i get worked up about, is a basic fairness that comes from true random probability. And if there isn't that one thing, that one most essential component to a game about and centered on the rolling of DICE, then there is no point to any of this, you have causing me small bursts of massive stress for the last 5 YEARS, and I think that anyone who would implement such a system of punishment is a lousy sadist, and ought to be ashamed as a maker of games. If this is true. And please, tell me I am wrong, if i am, because part of me right now sitting here, writing this wants this not to be true, does not wish to believe that i have spent 5 YEARS as the pawn of a sadistic PLOT to provide entertainment for, as fiero600 again so kindly reveals, a "cabal" of special people. This is not about me though, this is about ALL of the people who come to this site and play a game or two for free in their downtime, or have been doing so with some frequency and wonder occasionally how they could lose so badly, or so quickly, or why the same people always seem to breeze through games unscathed. The very people Fiero mentions, whom I have played with many times having been here as long as I have. So I guess we are nearing the end of my rant. I don't tend to write long whiny rants, but I just want to know, Ryan, or moderators, or whomever is in charge: Are you punishing me? Are you causing me suffering? Are you cheating us at a fundamental level? This has always been a timewaster for me (in an ok way) but are you wasting my time? I just want to be honestly unlucky- or nothing at all. |
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chaiNblade wrote
at 7:20 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST Hi there.
If you compare members and non-members, for instance, of the top 10 of the leaderboard, you can see that there is not such a big difference between the luck percentages. These percentages are calculated by your rolls in each game. I highly doubt it that when becoming a member, your luck increases. I myself am not a member and I have +- the same luck percentage of most members in the top 25. You've got unlucky when you lose a 5v2 in round 1, but this happens every now and then. Have you counted all the 5v2's that you won as well? If you do that, and compare this to the ones you lost, I think you'll get about the same luck percentage as any other player on this game. |
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reminder wrote
at 7:37 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST It's not that becoming a member increases your luck a lot, it's just canceling the membership that drops your luck. At least that's the thing I and some other people noticed to happen.
You shouldn't be this concerned with luck though. Trust me, nothing but incredible luck can save you from being killed by 2 or 3 people at once who cooperated from the very beginning. And incredible luck is insanely rare... The people who go unscathed... they do that because of the same reason why the outcome of a battle between player A (with 10 lands) and player B (with 5 lands) is pretty much fixed. Now let's make it player A (5 lands) and his PGA Player C (5 lands) vs player B. Who will win? You can't beat quantity without much better luck, which is impossible to have every single game. Heck, I don't want to insult you, but it seems that you don't have a good grasp of how PGAs affect the gameplay. |
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mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 7:47 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST the luck thing is just superstition that is accepted, nothing more. its like throwing salt over your shoulder.
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Karsten4130 wrote
at 8:14 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST Don“t worry woodcubed. Some people went on a losing streak and got paranoid.
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Gurgi wrote
at 8:32 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST tl;dr
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reminder wrote
at 9:31 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST tl;dr version of the first post: do members get more luck than regular players?
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trendz wrote
at 9:35 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST tl;
but thats first sentence gives me the general impression that the answer is going to "yes" |
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Thraxle wrote
at 9:37 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST No, members don't get better luck. Check my luck, and I haven't been a member since 2009.
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DoubleDogDareYa wrote
at 10:45 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST It's funny how those players who have the lowest level of game ethics also possess the attention spans of gnats. For example, they always have to project their guise of "e-coolness" by replying with tl;dr to any informative post. So wood cube, I will have to say that ever since I canceled my subscription on my main account, my luck has dropped noticeably. While on any of my alts, my luck is quite normal. This could be coincidental of course, but I have been suspicious of the same algorithmic manipulation that you are "calling out".
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DoubleDogDareYa wrote
at 10:48 AM, Sunday February 27, 2011 EST Oh, and one exception to my tl;dr observation is reminder.
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