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PERMABANs are not very useful in the real world?
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oakcliff wrote
at 3:03 PM, Sunday October 3, 2010 EDT
PERMABANs are great, but in the real world they may not improve Kdice much. For example, Tarkovsky and johnmuir were PERMABANed a few days ago but they are right back as Djangoo and Kepler. Today they indiscriminately squirted abuse on everyone at the table: ---------- Djangoo: Fucking laggy wireless network---------- Kepler: hey oakcliff---------- oakcliff: howdy---------- Kepler: fuck you faggot---------- Kepler: howdy, what the fuck is that---------- Kepler: what are you, the cowboy in the Village People?---------- Djangoo: nice comeback, too---------- Djangoo: ...---------- affe mit waffe: lol purp---------- Djangoo: ?---------- affe mit waffe: never saw such people guy like you---------- Djangoo: ?---------- Djangoo: How so?---------- affe mit waffe: just wondering how you where able to get this amount of points---------- Djangoo: Honor and skill---------- affe mit waffe: cause you are just creating 2 bigs isles all the time---------- affe mit waffe: haha SKILL---------- affe mit waffe: HAHA---------- affe mit waffe: i guess luck---------- Djangoo: Yes, and creating two big isles is my strategy in every game---------- Djangoo: Not just this game---------- Djangoo: Based on what I needed to do---------- Djangoo: I always try to have two bases---------- Djangoo: Because that's good kdice strategy---------- affe mit waffe: gz for being stupid---------- Djangoo: (all sarcasm, faggot)---------- Djangoo: Shut your disgusting whore mouth---------- Djangoo: Before I put my balls down your throat---------- Djangoo: Fucking faggot---------- Kepler: Djangoo, that is just absurd.---------- Kepler: do you kiss your mother with that mouth?---------- affe mit waffe: lol---------- Djangoo: No but I kiss your mom with that mouth---------- affe mit waffe: flame kiddy ahoi---------- Kepler: shut the fuck up yell this is between me and purp---------- Djangoo: yeah yell---------- Djangoo: Fucking stupid piece of shit---------- Djangoo: Keep your cock mouth closed---------- Djangoo: asshole piece of shit---------- Imke: geesh---------- Djangoo: stfu red---------- Djangoo: don't get involved---------- Djangoo: faggot bitch shit---------- Imke: can you turn it down a bit?---------- affe mit waffe: lawl---------- Djangoo: can you turn down your assholeishness?---------- Djangoo: I can smell your cunt from here, red
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oakcliff wrote
at 3:11 PM, Sunday October 3, 2010 EDT One idea (that might have already been considered) is a way for players at a table to mark or note abusive chat. (1) All players at the table could mark the chat as abusive, (2) False marks would be punished (e.g. if a moderator finds that more than 5% of my "abusive chat" marks are false then I get penalized, (3) The abuse marks would show up immediately and be anonymous--that encourages the normally silent players who hate that abusive stuff to "speak up" with the marker, (4) Some number of abuse marks AUTOMATICALLY throttles back the abusive player--no waiting for a moderator, (5) the abuse marks from more reliable markers could be given more weight, etc., etc. If Kdice could get rid of the abusive stuff it would be a whole lot more fun and family friendly. As it is now, children should not be allowed to play without a parent beside them.
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oakcliff wrote
at 3:23 PM, Sunday October 3, 2010 EDT My "abuse marker" could be modeled after the XSketch "warning" function. Obviously it should not be able to affect the current game or it could be used falsely for "profit." The main points are: (1) let the normally silent players who hate the abusive stuff "speak up" without marking themselves for further abuse from the abusive players and (2) put a quick, automatic stop to the abuse. These guys change names and continue to play just so they can spout abuse--the abuse is why they play. Let's stop it.
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jurgen wrote
at 4:18 PM, Sunday October 3, 2010 EDT oakcliff's idea is not perfect but there is something there to work with
a similar thing could be made to mark potential pga players. If enough people tag a person as "potential pga" it could be investigated by the advisors. If you turn out to be making too many false accusations, your mark rights should be removed. Only problem I see is that I know I have been accused by some less experienced players of pga truces where I can swear on my sons head it was simply a good common sense truce between me and another experienced player. Another skilled player will immediately agree I was simply trucing whereas a noob will surely mark me as pga. |
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oakcliff wrote
at 4:42 PM, Sunday October 3, 2010 EDT That is why I restricted my idea to abuse and avoided PGA. Accusations of PGA are thrown around quite casually in some cases, especially by newer players, as you said. Stop the abuse first--and that might take away quite a few PGAers, by the way (e.g. Djangoo and Kepler). Just as consistently enforcing the laws against the windshield wiping guys in Manhattan had a larger affect on lawlessness than some expected, getting rid of abusive players will get rid of many PGAers at the same time because these guys are often both.
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AEG_mossad wrote
at 8:02 PM, Sunday October 3, 2010 EDT Why is the ban linked to a username and not an IP or range of IPs?
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Thraxle wrote
at 10:55 AM, Monday October 4, 2010 EDT Permabans aren't very useful other than to annoy a user and possibly deter them from future transgressions. IP bans can only be done by Ryan and the tracability us mods have on IPs is limited.
The rest of your ideas requires coding time by Ryan, which isn't likely to happen since he's a busy man. |
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oakcliff wrote
at 12:18 PM, Monday October 4, 2010 EDT Thanks for the reply Thraxle. I and many others appreciate your efforts in keeping Kdice fun. I offered my idea not with the hope that it would actually come to fruition on Kdice soon or ever (who am I, free user of Kdice, to complain that the software project I imagined isn't on time?), but to put a cry out in the wilderness.
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Kehoe wrote
at 12:34 PM, Monday October 4, 2010 EDT How did you get an internet connection out in the wilderness?
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Thraxle wrote
at 1:07 PM, Monday October 4, 2010 EDT wireless
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oakcliff wrote
at 9:17 AM, Tuesday October 5, 2010 EDT Close! "The KVH TracPhone FB500 is the perfect solution for owners of ocean-going vessels worldwide, who desire or require the same Internet experience at sea that they enjoy at home and in the office. The FB500 uses Inmarsat's powerful Fleet Broadband service." Before I bought it I asked the salesman if I could only use it, you know, 'at sea.' He told me it would also work in the wilderness. Done and done.
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