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BAMMBI wrote
at 6:40 AM, Thursday September 30, 2010 EDT
Before the introduction of the Flagging System this game could be pretty fun. There was room for more varied political machinations. Now a game usually unfolds by someone getting a strongish base and everyone flagging him/her. Even middle bases regularly win in this way. I remember a time, before flags, when I stirred up a table of 2 territory cripples to bring down a farming empire that held most of the board. It was really fun. That, along with numerous other possible scenarios, cannot happen now. The game has lost a great deal of its political texture.
As an example of how much the Flagging System has ruined gameplay here is a copy/paste from the chatbox in a game i witnessed today: KimJung da ilest: i let u come thru KimJung da ilest: red pepecolo: kill kong sneakas: because i killed you green sneakas: and left you just because you wanted KimJung da ilest: u didnt kill shit bjgreg: purp and yell roll KimJung da ilest: I had u on the ropes JohnFTW: green you're losing dom by waiting BAMMBI: why dont all u little ones revolt? sneakas: blue ??? pepecolo: tu fais koi la toi sneakas: purp did nothing sneakas: why i should roll him ? KAGEEE: blue mildrid: mh purp wanted 4th pepecolo: bute le vert KimJung da ilest: just roll guys KAGEEE: what is your final decision bjgreg: that's correct KimJung da ilest: please mildrid: you all roll mildrid: what about that?! mildrid: all roll for third KimJung da ilest: lol pepecolo: kill green KimJung da ilest: okay pepecolo: wtf game KimJung da ilest: fuck it KAGEEE: ok sneakas: i suggest geen and purp roll KimJung da ilest: lets roll this bitch KAGEEE: all roll for 3rd KAGEEE: yellow pepecolo: not fait KAGEEE: roll or blue will kill u KimJung da ilest: 34 mildrid: 34 green pepecolo: blue and red sneakas: ok i roll last then mildrid: 25 KAGEEE: gg mildrid: 31 sneakas: 31 KimJung da ilest: I win pepecolo: yellow win mildrid: sorry purp pepecolo: mildrid i hate u Talk about lame. |
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BAMMBI wrote
at 6:44 AM, Thursday September 30, 2010 EDT Bear in mind that in the above chat more than half the original players were still in the game. 3 people were knocked out and then the game was concluded by discussion of who deserved which position.
Ruined. (sorry about double post) |
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stefanek1 wrote
at 3:03 PM, Thursday September 30, 2010 EDT I started playing after the flagging system introduction so I dont know if it was a good or a bad change. However i think that "rollof" thing is idiotic.
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Vermont wrote
at 3:05 PM, Thursday September 30, 2010 EDT There is something wrong with a game that rewards the leader by making them click end turn for ten minutes.
Flags were meant to help the game end faster, not to make it take longer. |
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BAMMBI wrote
at 3:11 PM, Thursday September 30, 2010 EDT In that case We should be playing on 3-player maps.
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Vermont wrote
at 3:20 PM, Thursday September 30, 2010 EDT Even on a three player map you'd have to people flag for second and the person in first has to just sit and wait. (Well, they don't have to, but general consensus has become that doing otherwise would be "dishonorable.")
A point reward for getting a kill would motivate everyone to focus on killing other players off, and get the game back to the fast-paced game we enjoy. Can someone please buy this site and hire me to code some new things? But not the forum...I love the form. |
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jurgen wrote
at 4:07 PM, Thursday September 30, 2010 EDT hmmm Vermont, hiring you does sound appealing (I have a long wish list too but we can always prioritise) but bying this site alone might be a bit too risky in the current financial climate
We would need a few people willing to invest like 5k each |
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BAMMBI wrote
at 4:17 PM, Thursday September 30, 2010 EDT I like your idea vermont. Cant you hack the site and secretly insert the code?
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kdiceplaya! wrote
at 4:39 PM, Thursday September 30, 2010 EDT I like Verm's idea too, however I hate this forum. It is organized very poorly.
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Vermont wrote
at 4:48 PM, Thursday September 30, 2010 EDT I had a discussion with Ryan long ago about why he wrote his own forum instead of using one of the many free, robust, secure, proven, feature-rich, forums out there.
The bottom line was that he wanted to be able to tie it into the kdice database directly in order to have forum accounts based on kdice user accounts. I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to decide if it would have been quicker to write some integration code or to craft your own substandard forum. Ryan, if I'm wrong here, please set the record straight. |
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jurgen wrote
at 9:03 AM, Saturday October 2, 2010 EDT This forum isn't too bad actually, but there is no question about it that things could improve a lot by a few simple additions.I leave the order of importance open for discussion but imo these are:
1st: edit button/delete post button 2nd: forum moderators who can edit/move/delete posts (can be other people than the advisors, I mean you can't do all jobs at the same time) 3rd: link to next/previous 10 posts on the top of the page 4th: search function 5th: after mods can move threads, maybe divide "discussion" into subgroups like general (also for the non-kdice related fun threads)/game questions/problem reporting (pga, abuse, racism, bug reporting) |
