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Ninja Flags
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jaquibosox wrote
at 1:58 PM, Sunday June 15, 2008 EDT
Most people who are "new school" do not understand the older meaning of a ninja flag. It is hard to explain, but Grun did a good job of explaining what the flag system was originally, during ELO days. The old complaints of a ninja flag made much more sense when people complain about ninja flags, because there was nothing anyone, including first place, could do about a ninja flag except unflag.
The current use of these words is closer to "mercy" flagging, or something of the sort. If you are in second all game, and someone who was below you attacks, takes some space, and flags second, he is asking for mercy from 1st place. The game does not immediately end, and you still have a chance to fight and take back second place from this mercy flagger. I'm not sure if this is a pandemic, or just a few ignorant kdicers, but a ninja flag, in the old sense of the word, is impossible with today's flag system. The only way a ninja flag will work is if 1st place is a player who respects all flags no matter what, which is why respecting flags is an art, and not a science. |
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 2:43 PM, Sunday June 15, 2008 EDT I miss ninja flagging, that was fun and boy did it piss people off, nothing like stealing places from people.
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Danny_DCB wrote
at 2:44 PM, Sunday June 15, 2008 EDT And your point is...
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kdicefreak wrote
at 3:36 PM, Sunday June 15, 2008 EDT what exactly are you bitching about?
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jaquibosox wrote
at 3:42 PM, Sunday June 15, 2008 EDT Not really bitching, just sick of people complianing about ninja flags and not having any idea what they are talking about.
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kdicefreak wrote
at 4:08 PM, Sunday June 15, 2008 EDT ninja flag can be referred to a number of things; yours is only one of the intepretation.
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krez wrote
at 5:12 PM, Sunday June 15, 2008 EDT hey, with the new dom system its all about ninja. Thats the only way to scrap some points anyway. So live with it and let it be.
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Judas∅ wrote
at 9:31 PM, Sunday June 15, 2008 EDT Ninja flagging was another aspect of the game. It actually required skill.
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ProxyCheater wrote
at 10:33 PM, Sunday June 15, 2008 EDT I define ninja flagging as extending yourself and spreading yourself thin to reach a place higher than you should have given the circumstances, and then flagging.
If you can defend your higher position, then I wouldn't call it ninja flagging, unless the 1st place person is between you and the (now) lower ranked people--that could be called a mercy flag, but I'd still call that ninja flagging, because you're really asking the 1st place person to give you the higher place even though you didn't really earn it. A similar example would be someone who is split into two or three groups that won't ever connect, and flags just because they have enough spaces at the moment to be in 2nd/3rd place or whatever. They might have a pocket of spaces behind the 1st place player and are hoping their flag will be "respected" even though again, it's not really justified. One clear sign of a ninja flag is if the flag is much higher than the player's actual place a couple of turns after the flag, and the person doesn't reflag for their new place. With regard to "mercy" flagging, I don't think you always have a chance to take back the place from the "mercy flagger". Often the 1st place player is in the way, and won't let you cut through to fight for 2nd. It's really up to the 1st place player at that point to decide whether or not to respect the ninja flag. I think one of the key factors is often whether or not the ninja flagger was in a position to damage the 1st place player when (or before) they threw the flag. |
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nunes wrote
at 10:58 PM, Sunday June 15, 2008 EDT Lol, you really take it seriously
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integral wrote
at 2:59 PM, Sunday July 27, 2014 EDT bump so people stop saying ninja flag
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