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Team Game rules
Posted By: jurgen at 1:09 PM, Friday February 10, 2012 EST
Team Game rules (provisional version)

1. Introduction
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As long as there are no official team tables with 6 seats, we will accept team games on normal tables, provided some elementary fair play rules are respected. These will of course be gentlemen agreements. Let’s all keep in mind that the aim of these team games is to play for fun. Team games cannot be used as a way of funneling points to a person going for a big medal.

2. Tables
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In theory any table can be used for team games. Since there is no good payout structure present for team games, 500 tables are the recommended table limit. You can fiddle with a domless 1st and stuff in the end to try and award all winning team members a reasonable amount of points.

For February, the following team tables were made. Sadly enough the 500 table that Alex made is broken:

http://www.kdice.com/#@TEAM_TABLE5 0 level 8 stack 36 territories

http://www.kdice.com/#@TEAM_TABLE1 100 level 8 stack 35 territories

http://www.kdice.com/#@TEAM_TABLE 2000 level 8 stack 33 territories

people can suggest good alternatives in the comments, so we can nominate a few possible team table names each month. Ideally the table names should be short and easy to remember.

3. General Rules
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*) No one can be bullied into joining these team games. Don’t let people sit and tell them it’s a team game after a game started. On the other hand people who agree to play a team game can not back out of it after the game started (if they didn’t take back their ok in before the game). You can try to persuade a player of course but excessive pressure could result in bans (please let’s not go there). No pge threats are allowed if someone refuses to play a team game.

*) If people sit at a team table and refuse to play a team game, you can ask them to leave but same rule applies as for the above. No excessive bullying, even if these people sit at an @team_table. If you want to play a team game and some normal players don’t want to leave, the team players have to change table.

*) If 4 or more team players changed table twice so they can try again on a new table and they are followed by the same people who refused to leave the previous table because they didn’t want to play a team game, a last friendly effort should be made to ask them to leave. If these players refuse to leave your new room, clearly trying to sabotage the team games, you can start a game and pge the troll team. You can even agree to play a mini team game after the trolls are killed. The team players can only take action on the third table they try and start a team game.

*) If someone does accidentally join a team game as teal for some reason and wants out, you can try and make an agreement where he/she will just sit and will be guaranteed a positive (or slightly negative at worst) score. If he doesn’t agree, a NORMAL individual game will have to be played.


*) Team games cannot be used to boost one particular player in each team. Roll offs in the end are highly recommended . Only if someone took a few big point hits in previous team games, sat as neutral in previous games (with a big point loss as a result), or agrees to sit neutral next game can the winning team chose to not roll for 1st place. A team has the option to agree on some + boni based on in game reasons (someone ended up really big or did most of the fighting). This should be limited to +3 or maybe +4. An agreement where 3rd gets all the dom and 1st gets none is also an option. It’s hard to enforce a clear roll off rule though. So for the sake of the fun of team games, we will have to hope that nobody will try and ruin the team concept by funneling. If the freedom that the winning team will be given to decide how places will be fairly determined is abused , the roll off might become mandatory.
*) Pges will have to set aside their differences if they want to play the same team game
*) Stabbing should be forbidden or at least not be tolerated by the community. There should be no flagging from one team member to people from the other team to save their skin, people can’t change sides or kill someone from their own team, etc.



4. Game Variants
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The standard 3v3 variant (copied from Veta’s thread)
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A) THE TEAMS (A & B) ARE MADE UP OF THREE (3) PLAYERS EACH

B) THE LAST PLAYER TO ATTACK (STARTING TURN) IS CONSIDERED THE NEUTRAL PLAYER. THAT IS TO SAY THAT PLAYER DOES NO ATTACK OR MOVE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE GAME
****The neutral player may move the first round in order to connect, but from there on no one will attack the neutral (except as a last option connect)

C) TEAMS ARE DECIDED RANDOMLY BY THEIR TURN. THE FIRST, THIRD, AND FIFTH PLAYERS WILL MAKE UP TEAM A. THE SECOND, FOURTH, AND SIXTH PLAYERS TO ATTACK WILL MAKE UP TEAM B. THE SEVENTH PLAYER TO ATTACK IS THE NEUTRAL.
****Example: Red starts. Red, Purple and Blue are on Team A. Then Green, Yellow, and Brown are on Team B. Teal is Neutral.

D) THE TWO TEAMS WILL FIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME. THEY WILL AVOID HITTING THE NEUTRAL PLAYER, EXCEPT TO CONNECT. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE MAY YOU KILL THE NEUTRAL. THE NEUTRAL PLAYER WILL EARN AT MINIMUM FOURTH (4TH) PLACE; ABOVE THE LOSING TEAM; BELOW THE WINNING TEAM.
****Being neutral can suck. You will get 4th sometimes and no dom. But sometimes you may get 2nd or 3rd because the losing team knocked some players out for you. Keep that in mind and don't let it discourage you if you are designated neutral.
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The standard 3v4 variant
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This is a more simple variant and does not require a 7th neutral
First 3 players to start form Team A
Last 4 players to start form Team B @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@




5 Suggestions:
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*) If you want to play team games on the lower tables, agree to which type of team game you are going to play before the start of the game. These tables can fill fast so make sure you have 7 people willing to play team games before you start a team game at a 0/100. If needed, open up a new table and sit fast.

*) If you don’t have 7 players yet , don’t have more than 4 people sitting, so you can inform the new sitters that you want to play a team game. One or more players can copy paste a standard line and post it when new players enter the room. Once you know there are 7 team players, the last 2 or 3 can quickly sit

example 1: "This will be a team game, meaning 4 players vs 3 players. The first team is the player to start first + the 2 seats after that. The second team are the 4 remaining players. Do not sit if you don’t agree or if you have questions."

*) Once the game starts, someone can type out the team setup. I suggest this because I have seen some team games start with a bit confusion as to who is in which team. So someone (you can nominate this person in advance) can type : “Team A: red green purple Team B: yellow blue brown teal” or “Team A = name1, name2, name 3 etc”. This suggestion is meant to remove confusion. So please don’t use this to misinform new players.

*) If a losing team concedes and asks to roll off for places, don’t kill anyone off. Grabbing their remaining dom is partly acceptable maybe but try and finish these games in a fun and positive atmosphere.

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Gurgi wrote
at 3:25 PM, Friday February 10, 2012 EST
tl;dr

pga is now allowed as long as you make it public
montecarlo wrote
at 3:42 PM, Friday February 10, 2012 EST
its not a pga because you dont know who is on your team until the game starts with a random first turn.
@SecretVeta wrote
at 4:59 PM, Friday February 10, 2012 EST
Some of the best team games I had were basically new cabal vs anti-new cabal in spring 2009
boogybytes wrote
at 4:50 PM, Sunday February 12, 2012 EST
Since when do mods have legislative (rule-making) powers?
boogybytes wrote
at 4:53 PM, Sunday February 12, 2012 EST
A more appropriate title for this post might be "team game guidelines"
THE NIGGLER wrote
at 9:43 PM, Thursday February 16, 2012 EST
get the stick out of your ass sour puss (figuratively). or literally i'm not sure what you people are actually into.
pooch723 wrote
at 11:54 AM, Sunday February 19, 2012 EST
I'm sorry; after reading all of this it makes one point come to mind: if this is a war game....why are there now teams?? You can still have fun with your buds and kill them at the same time. That is why sometimes you will see me put this is too friendly of a table.
jurgen wrote
at 4:32 PM, Monday February 20, 2012 EST
boogy, I'm not enforcing any team rules

people can come up with any team games they like as long as they are fair and balanced and not aimed to cheat or favour

I'm trying to endorse team games because 1) I like them 2) people want them 3) it needs a bit of guiding and modding until Ryan gives his own input

I'm suggesting my own ideas + I'm trying to synthesise what I pick up in the community. I've never tried to enforce my own team rules

The only RULES I will "make up" are just common sense and are there in order to keep priority for the regular games and to prevent funneling

basically, you cannot bully people into team games. If some players don't want to play a team game, the team game players HAVE to move. There can also be no constant funneling to one specific team member. If someone wins 4 roll offs in a row, so be it but a team CANNOT boost one player by always letting the same player finish highest without doing a roll.

That's it
Definitely Veta wrote
at 2:00 AM, Tuesday February 21, 2012 EST
i won so many roll offs as boner oiler
boogybytes wrote
at 9:43 AM, Saturday February 25, 2012 EST
so like i said they're not rules they are suggestions or guidelines...
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